Excellent. That is exactly the POD I had in mind when I wrote that!
73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
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From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
Moreschi
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 8:01 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Wish List for ORION-III
I have now fully integrated the Woodbox radio Tmate2 with all my software.
The Tmate2 has 3 knobs and 9 buttons and you can choose from a list of over
60 functions to set for each control. Additionally the
Tmate2 has a nice LCD display on it. This is a new feature that I have
added and it is available in beta form on my test page. If you want to try
this out, send an email to me and I will provide full info.
I also have full implementation for the Flex Knob from Flex radio.
Carl Moreschi N4PY
58 Hogwood Rd
Louisburg, NC 27549
www.n4py.com
On 4/8/2014 11:14 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
> You may very well be correct, Carl.
> Rob hasn't sent me any data on the 6500 yet.
>
> I was assuming its performance and behavior will be in the ballpark of
> the 5000.
> Just shows to go ya, assumptions are always dangerous!
>
> All my earlier comments were based on my knowledge of the 5000's
> performance so they may be totally off on the 6500, but I have to say
> I remain skeptical until I've seen lab measurements and heard field
> feedback from a larger Field Day operation.
> REMEMBER: We were all astonished by the 5000's lab measurements, only
> to get a reality check at Field Day.
>
> However, still no knobs!
>
> We're beginning to see some nice 3rd party PODs hit the market, so
> maybe that problem will get solved too.
> Then we only have to work on the price!
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
> Moreschi
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 4:47 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Wish List for ORION-III
>
> NO the 6500 does not behave like the 5000. The 6500 has a clip point
> of
> S9 + 80 DB. That's a HUGE signal.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
>
> On 4/8/2014 9:40 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
>> Carl, Yes AND NO!
>>
>> For all of us operating at home (alone), YES. At least as far as
>> technology goes. Not sure if operator acceptance is there yet.
>>
>> But, for a Field Day, especially a larger club with 5 or 6
>> transmitters, you often find yourself in the situation that there are
>> two stations operating on 40m at the same time (1 in CW, 1 in SSB),
>> and two stations operating on 20m at the same time. Under THESE
>> circumstances, the BDR3 of a Flex 6500 radio (or similar) drops by 20+dB!
>> A K3 under the same circumstances does not drop in BDR3 at all and
>> will easily out-perform the Flex.
>>
>> As it turns out, precisely the components that helps this technology
>> achieve the great performance (by avoiding Crystal filter, additional
>> oscillator, mixer, etc., all of which can cause additional IMD), are
>> the cause of the drop in BDR3 in this specific case. Not having
>> these components in the radio causes this drop. A decent crystal
>> roofing filter would avoid this drop.
>> IT'S A DOUBLE SIDED SWORD.
>>
>> It's described in one of Rob Sherwood's presentation (I forgot which
>> one, but it's on my web). In that specific case it was the Flex
>> 5000, but the
>> 6500 will behave just like this.
>> It was in one of the "BARC" presentations (probably 2009) and came up
>> in the Q&A session after the slides were finished, so you have to
>> listen to the long audio of the Q&A at the end of the presentation to
>> pick
> this point up.
>>
>> Most likely Rob will read this at some time and jump in with more
>> info on this point.
>>
>> Unfortunately there is still no silver bullet.
>>
>> AND, if Ten-Tec were to do this, it would be "outdar" ahead of the
>> power curve taking arrows in its back.
>> Seems there are still an awful lot of people who want to have real
>> knobs, especially amongst contesters.
>> I have yet to see anyone using an SDR (knobless) radio win any major
>> contest.
>>
>> My hunch is, at a Multi-Multi station where you have 6 stations
>> running 1.5kW at once, you will see a similar drop in BDR3 - again
>> due to missing roofing filter, BUT I DO NOT KNOW THIS TO BE FACT.
>> JUST A
> HUNCH.
>>
>> Finally, as for size, if the radio must be larger to fit everything
>> in, then make it higher. My problem is with real estate on the
>> desktop. I had to buy a new desk when I bought the Orion. I'd have
>> to do that again if the O3 were that big again. (sold the old desk
>> when I moved to the states in
>> 20007)
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
>> Moreschi
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 2:24 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Wish List for ORION-III
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> This is all too outdated a way to make a transceiver now. The new
>> best way is to create 100% digital data right at the antenna connection.
>> Then everything is done in software. The new Flex 6500 does this and
>> the results are totally amazing. No more crystal filters at all and
>> the
>> 2 khz dynamic range is above 100 db. I believe in a few years all
>> good radios will be made this way.
>>
>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>> www.n4py.com
>>
>>
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