I've heard that as well. However, I've measured the two radios on 6M. I
can hear a -121 dBm signal equally and quite well on each one. This is with
the PRE ON for both radios. I can comment, since the Eagle has a very quite
receive, many seem to think since there is no noise heard the sensitivity is
not there.
73
Bob, K4TAX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Reasons to buy an OM7 instead of an Eagle
OH, that's a good point Carl, one I forgot.
I have never operated 6m in my life, but I have heard others mention that
the Eagle is a bit deaf on that band.
We'll add it to the list.
HERE IS A QUESTION TO YOU GUYS WHO HAVE AN OM7:
Is there band data available on the back panel?
That is convenient for driving all sorts of add-on devices.
The Eagle has none?
73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw
- K4TAX
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 2:23 PM
To: n4py3@earthlink.net; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Reasons to buy an OM7 instead of an Eagle
These are points that I also find correct and I agree with Carl's
assessment
on performance.
73
Bob, K4TAX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py3@earthlink.net>
To: "R. Eric Sluder" <resluder@yahoo.com>; "Discussion of Ten-Tec
Equipment"
<tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Reasons to buy an OM7 instead of an Eagle
That sounds like the RF gain was just set too high in the Omni VII. I
have both radios here and I like the Omni VII much better. The Omni VII
is more convenient to use the controls. It's also more sensitive for
hearing weak signals on 6 meters.
Carl Moreschi N4PY
58 Hogwood Rd
Louisburg, NC 27549
www.n4py.com
On 7/9/2014 10:49 PM, R. Eric Sluder via TenTec wrote:
Nice response Rick.
Having both radios I'll say the OM7 receiver isn't capable of dealing
with interference like the Eagle can do. Broadcast band interference on
160 meters is a good example. Atmospheric noise (including lightning
pulses) are stronger in my OM7 verses the Eagle. It maybe because the
Eagle is a down converted receiver with a less broad front end whereas
the OM7 has a broader front end (20 Khz I believe) and is up converted,
plus the DSP isn't of the same vintage of the Eagle (just guessing).
73
Eric
W9WLW
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 9, 2014, at 5:10 PM, "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP"<Rick@DJ0IP.de>
wrote:
I was just asked off list for reasons to warrant spending the extra
bread on
an OM7 instead of an Eagle.
Ha! I had to bite my tongue to keep from saying "none, there aren't
any!"
(hi)
There are of course 2 or 3 minor reasons and I've created my list
below.
Perhaps someone else more familiar with the OM7 than I am can think of
other
reasons that I have forgotten.
Grateful to any additional tips.
(and to the OM who asked me this question, if you do not subscribe to
the
tentec group at contesting.com, send me another email and I will
forward
you
any replies we get).
==========================================================
Hi OM, (name withheld)
You do realize of course that you have posed that question to a man in
love
with his Eagle! (hi)
OK, but I will try and be objective on this.
The Eagle's better receiver is really only noticeable in BIG contests
where
a good operator is willing to dive into the middle of the heaviest
pile-up
on the band to work whatever DX multiplier is under all the rumble.
Apart
from that, there is not a lot of difference in the two receivers.
However
when the going gets tough, the Eagle will outshine the Omni 7.
I'll start with the only other negative of the OM7 over the Eagle: it
has
only one knob for AF and RF gain. Not the end of the world but
separate
knobs would have been better.
And of course if you go backpacking, I'd rather carry an Eagle! (hi)
Same applies for mobile operations.
Now here is my short list of features the OM7 has which the Eagle does
not:
. A larger read out, including an S-Meter that you can actually see and
read
. Better interfacing to old amplifiers (or new Ameritron amplifiers) in
CW
mode. The OM7 has adjustable hang delay on the tail end of the signal.
The
Eagle does not have this feature and if you have one of these amps, you
absolutely need it. With the Eagle, you must purchase the Model 318
Amp
Keyer for a hundred bucks.
. Interfacing to Ten-Tec full QSK amplifiers (dual-cable keying). The
Eagle
does not have this. If you don't have a full QSK linear with this
keying
loop circuitry, it doesn't matter.
. A band scope (though it's not the greatest)
. Larger heat sink on the back side for cooling the final transistors.
You
really do not need a fan unless you are running RTTY. The Eagle
doesn't
have this so it must rely on a fan. It is not terribly loud but it is
audible.
. Direct frequency entry keypad
. Curtis mode A and B keying. It's fixed on the Eagle, but I have no
idea
which one. Somehow I never paid any attention to that stuff. I just
key
whatever they throw at me and it somehow seems to always work.
. Two spare RCA phono plugs AND an internal provision to connect two
coax
cables to these to be used as connection for a pre-selector or noise
cancelor.
. A serial port.
. Connection for the POD (the remote VFO knob). I sometimes miss this
on my
Eagle.
. 2 antenna jacks
. Ethernet connection
. AUX RX (antenna) - an input for a receive-only antenna (uses one of
the
two ANT connections)
. Adjustable bandwidth on SSB
. Adjustable RX and TX equalizers
. CTCSS for FM
. Adjustable CW (keying) weighting
. SPOT (for spotting in CW) - which I personally feel is worthless
. Adjustable rise/fall time on CW. A fancy option but I don't feel it
is
necessary. The Eagle's CW signal is just fine.
. FSK X Data (if you are into RTTY)
. VFO Speed Shift which basically speeds up the tuning rate by a factor
of 4
when you turn the VFO knob real fast. Many people like this feature a
lot.
. A very comfortable software menu (probably the very best in the
industry)
. OmniRig support (very important for many 3rd party software programs)
. A dedicated RIT/XIT knob (using the RIT on the Eagle is very clumsy)
. And of course REMOTE CONTROL (over the Internet)
That's all that comes to mind right now, but keep in mind that I do not
own
an OM7 and the last time I even saw or used one was in 2007. That was
7
years ago. and my old grey cells "ain't what they used to be".
73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
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