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Re: [TenTec] Orion I no tx/rx

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion I no tx/rx
From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:41:16 +0000
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Mike, do a re-flash, not just a reset.

Barry N1EU


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Mike LaRoche <barreherbalist@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'll do the cleaning and reset tonight and check back with the results.
> Thanks to everyone for your input!!
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There's a good photo of the back of the front panel at
> > http://www.tentecwiki.org/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=orion_batt1.jpg
> clearly
> > showing the two ribbon cables and the yellow battery about 6 inches to
> the
> > left of them.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Also, if you do disconnect those connectors, be careful to gently nudge
> > > them up by the connector body and don't simply yank on the ribbon cable
> > or
> > > you'll risk separating the cable from its connector.  Those ribbon
> cable
> > > terminations and strain reliefs are inherently not very strong.
> > >
> > > Barry N1EU
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I tend to agree with Carl.  It doesn't sound like a classic A9 power
> > >> distrib board capacitor issue with symptoms of rebooting esp during
> > xmit.
> > >> It also doesn't sound like a classic battery issue with symptoms of
> lost
> > >> rig configuration.  However, if it was me, I would probably go ahead
> and
> > >> replace the battery while you have the front panel opened (see
> > >> http://www.tentecwiki.org/doku.php?id=565battery )
> > >>
> > >> Before you do all that, you might consider reflashing the firmware
> > >> (assuming the rig is connected to your computer) and see if that
> helps.
> > >>
> > >> 73, Barry N1EU
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> yes.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > >>> 58 Hogwood Rd
> > >>> Louisburg, NC 27549
> > >>> www.n4py.com
> > >>>
> > >>> On 7/10/2014 10:19 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Carl, do you mean the ribbon cable connectors?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Barry N1EU
> > >>>> <http://www.tentecwiki.org/doku.php?id=565battery>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Carl Moreschi<n4py3@earthlink.net>
> > >>>>  wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  This sounds like the classic dirty connector behind the front panel
> > >>>>> problem.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> There's a couple of connectors with about 200 connections on it
> > behind
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>> Orion front panel. There's so many connections that you can get
> > almost
> > >>>>> any
> > >>>>> symptom from this. These connections should have been gold but they
> > are
> > >>>>> not.  So they need to be cleaned.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It's actually not very difficult to get to.  You remove the front
> > >>>>> panel.
> > >>>>> Then unplug the big connectors and spray them thoroughly with a
> good
> > >>>>> electrical contact cleaner.  Then, while they are wet, plug and
> > unplug
> > >>>>> them
> > >>>>> about 20 times to clean them.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I had this on my Orion when it had intermittent symptoms and this
> > >>>>> completely fixed it.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> After doing this do a complete reset as follows:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 1) Power off Orion.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2) Power On holding the VFO B LCK button.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 3) Continue holding LCK button until the radio says "Battery
> > Failure".
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 4) Power off Orion.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 5) Power on holding "Main RX/TX" button.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 6) Continue holding this button until the radio says reset
> complete.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 7) Do not clear any settings when asked to do so.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 8) Power the Orion off and back on one more time.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > >>>>> 58 Hogwood Rd
> > >>>>> Louisburg, NC 27549
> > >>>>> www.n4py.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 7/10/2014 10:00 AM, Mike LaRoche wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  I signed up for this mailing list with the hope of never having to
> > ask
> > >>>>>> help
> > >>>>>> with a problem....alas this is not to be the case....
> > >>>>>> A couple weeks ago I turned on the Orion and it went through the
> > >>>>>> normal
> > >>>>>> start-up and I first thought "wow the band is quiet" however the
> > >>>>>> scope was
> > >>>>>> flat, no rx, keyed the mike, no tx. After a few frantic minutes
> > >>>>>> checking
> > >>>>>> all connections and making sure I didn't change something on the
> > radio
> > >>>>>> suddenly it started working FB. About a week later the same thing
> > >>>>>> happened
> > >>>>>> but this time it didn't come around on it's own, a few minutes
> after
> > >>>>>> performing a master reset it started working again (WHEW!) A few
> day
> > >>>>>> ago
> > >>>>>> the same thing happened only this time I'm not so lucky and so far
> > >>>>>> hasn't
> > >>>>>> worked. A search of the archives found some info on power supply
> > >>>>>> issues
> > >>>>>> with a similar condition but switching power supplies didn't
> help. I
> > >>>>>> had
> > >>>>>> not operated the radio between the times the problems occurred.
> I'm
> > >>>>>> hoping
> > >>>>>> one of the many gurus here has the answer!
> > >>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help
> > >>>>>> 73
> > >>>>>> Mike ND1W
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