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Re: [TenTec] Hercules 444 amp

To: George Fritkin <georgefritkin@yahoo.com>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Hercules 444 amp
From: Duane Calvin <ac5aa1@gmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 06:32:54 -0500
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I don't think we're talking power out, but rather long-term reliability. At the 
time I had the two pairs of RF Parts 3-500ZG's they were touting how they had 
the factory running to meet their manufacturing criteria.  They had done a lot 
of work to improve the factory's product to meet their requirements.  Maybe 
this is all old news now. 

   73, Duane

Duane Calvin
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 11, 2014, at 12:41 AM, George Fritkin via TenTec 
> <tentec@contesting.com> wrote:
> 
> A couple of years ago I decided to replace the Eimacs in my SB220 after all 
> they were the original tubes.  I carefully measured power out.  We were going 
> to San Diego so on the way I picked up a new pair at RF parts.  I got home 
> installed the new tubes.  Guess what, with new tubes.........exactly same 
> power out
> 
> Oh, we'll
> 
> George, W6GF
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Aug 10, 2014, at 6:51 PM, "Duane Calvin" <ac5aa1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Sure, Carter.  My Centurion came new with two RF Parts 3-500ZG's.  This was
>> fairly early in the life of this tube configuration (graphite anode variety)
>> and manufacturer, and TT had just started advertising they were using them.
>> After about 2 years of occasional use, generally running between 600-900W
>> (and all settings well within the safe zone), one of the original tubes
>> developed the infamous grid/cathode short.  I replaced the original tubes
>> with a new matched-pair of 3-500ZG's from RF Parts, and shortly after that I
>> sold the amp (with a used spare tube).  I know lots of guys who have had
>> Heath and other amps with EIMAC 3-500Z's in them for years with very few
>> problems.  Yes, mine could have been a late early life failure, but at that
>> time I was reading of others having similar problems with these tubes.  That
>> was a few years ago - maybe RF Parts has improved their relationship with
>> the factory that makes these tubes and all is well today.  So, my "data"
>> consists of one in-person experience along with a number of other reported
>> failures around the same time, for whatever that's worth.  The implication,
>> to me, is that the tubes at that time were not of the same quality level as
>> EIMAC's.
>> 
>>   73, Duane
>> 
>> 
>> Duane Calvin, AC5AA
>> Austin, Texas
>> www.ac5aa.com  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carter
>> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 8:33 PM
>> To: tentec@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Hercules 444 amp
>> 
>>> On 8/10/2014 2:08 PM, Duane Calvin wrote:
>>> This was certainly true of the  EIMAC tubes, as long as you cared well
>>> for them.  I've not had as good a luck with the current
>>> Chinese-sourced tubes (specifically, the 3-500ZG's from RF Parts,
>>> which the Centurion uses.)
>> 
>> My Centurion (which I obtained used 20 years ago) finally had one of its 
>> tubes [rather spectacularly] go to the great beyond.
>> 
>> Unless I get really lucky and find a NOS pair at the e-place, it seems 
>> like my only other option is a matched pair from RF Parts.
>> 
>> Could you please elaborate a bit on your statement above that says "I've 
>> not had as good a luck with the current
>> Chinese-sourced tubes (specifically, the 3-500ZG's from RF Parts)".
>> 
>> 73,
>> Carter K8VT
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