THAT is a radio I would buy!
Gary
w0DVN
> On Dec 4, 2015, at 4:36 AM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well said Rick. What we need is an Eagle with an Omni VI+ front panel!!!
>
> 73, Barry N1EU
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:41 PM, rick@dj0ip.de <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:
>
>> Louis,
>>
>> While I agree that there is a market for simpler radios, not overloaded
>> with features, going back to an analog VFO and Xtal filters is not only
>> costly, it is a big step backwards in performance.
>>
>> Our bands are way more crowded than they were back in the 70s, the days of
>> the Triton IV.
>> Far more hams have amplifiers than back then.
>> Simple crystal filters won't cut it. They lack the steep skirts of the
>> DSP filters.
>>
>> Multiple crystal filters in two IF frequencies is a minimum requirement
>> and this drives cost way up, and even then, the ultimate attenuation is not
>> as good as with DSP filters.
>> DSP filters are much cheaper to implement, and far superior to the
>> dual-crystal filter solution.
>> Going back to an analog VFO would rule out any kind of modern digital mode
>> so that would turn away half the potential buyers.
>>
>> The Eagle was a good step in the kind of radio you are talking about
>> except it had one major disconnect in the planning. This kind of radio
>> appeals to old guys like me... who can't see very good anymore. We don't
>> need a tiny radio with a tiny display and a micro-S-Meter, we need a normal
>> sized radio with easy to read meter and scales, and we need big knobs for
>> our arthritis-plagued hands.
>>
>> So yes, give us a simple, affordable radio, but let's not have it
>> broadcast "yaba daba doo" each time we turn it on!
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Louis
>> Ciotti
>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 7:49 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Status
>>
>> With some time to reflect on this announcement, It is clear that Ten-Tec
>> has hopefully reached bottom. While the only tentec equipment I currently
>> own is my grandfathers old Trition IV set-up, I had in the pas also owned
>> an Argonaut, and an Omni VI+ opt 3. I have always loved the receive on
>> ten-tec rigs, and my main rig being FT-950 now, I do miss it. It is my
>> hope that Ten-Tec can be resurrected and produce quality equipment.
>>
>> A couple of items that are somewhat concerning in this announcement:
>>
>> 1) I had no idea production was stopped on any of the products. With the
>> statements that OMNI's and eagles will be back in production in 2016. Did
>> RKR liquidate all the component inventory that is going to cause this time
>> get production rolling again? Or did the new owner just buy the name and
>> IP?
>> 2) Asking for monetary support from end users. I do not see this
>> working. Talking about raising 200K-400K from end users if s BIG red flag
>> for me.
>> 3) RKR still has TenTec on their list of products. What of the people
>> who are not on this reflector who attempt to order product from today on?
>> Are they being turned away? This can't be a good thing to happen.
>> 4) What is to happen with repairs. There is no mention of this at all.
>> RKR seemed to destroy TenTec reputation for providing repairs at a
>> reasonable cost, for just about any of TenTecs products, even well out of
>> production products.
>> 5) This coming out before the formal announcement is only going to create
>> lots of speculation, and rumors of what "will" happen in the future.
>>
>> As for my $0.02 opinion on future Ten-Tec offerings. call it my top 10
>> list:
>>
>> 1) Bring back a "vintage" styled radio. Something for the new ham, or
>> old timer who does not want to dig through 3 layers of menus to adjust the
>> RF output power. While all the new and fancy feature are nice (DSP, band
>> displays, built in digital mode encoders, etc.) they are not must have for
>> every ham out there. Think a modern 544 with the same marketing plan, base
>> rig, matching power supply, external VFO, matching antenna tuner, etc...
>> Something that can grow with the user.
>> 2) Bring back the line of Ten-Tet manual tuners
>> 3) #2, but a CW qrp rig
>> 4) Kits kits and more kits!!
>> 5) Cases. I know this was dropped a few years ago, but a small line a
>> cases that experimenters and home-brewers can use would be great
>> 6) Include FULL documentation and open source all firmware source code
>> with all new radios so end users can trouble shoot, and potentially fix
>> their investment, and create modifications.
>> 7) Something geared toward mobile use. Again keep it simple with mostly
>> front panel controls that can be easily operated while mobile.
>> 8) 6M Transverter
>> 9) Bring back the 6N2
>> 10) More open source radios
>>
>> While flagship and cutting edge radios are nice, there is defiantly a
>> marked for radios that adhere to the KISS principal.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Mike Bryce <prosolar@sssnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well that’s a fine how-do-you-do this morning.
>>>
>>> I’ve been with the same company I’m various forms for 43 years.
>>>
>>> We were sold, went bankrupt, sold to a capital investment group, went
>>> bankrupt, sold again, did ESOP, sold, bankrupt… This went on and on.
>>>
>>> whenever someone want’s to “invest in your company” you’d better run.
>>> RKR wasn’t a good mix for Ten Tec. My opinion.
>>>
>>> Mergers are never a good idea. When I hired in, the company had just
>>> under a thousand employees. Today, we have 53. Where we once had 90%
>>> of the market, we struggle with 15%. Sure, we have
>>> newer/slimmer/import competitors, but somehow though the mergers, we
>>> lost track of what we where, where we’ve been, and where we’re going.
>>>
>>> Right now, Ten Tec is like the company I work for. We’re barreling
>>> down hill and nobody is driving the bus.
>>>
>>> It seems right now that Ten Tec is poking their heads down into the
>> abyss.
>>> And to me, the last owners used the company like a beer can—they
>>> drained out the last drop and then crushed the empty shell.
>>>
>>> The light at the end of my tunnel is getting brighter, and I can see
>>> myself retired by the time dayton 2016 arrives. I won’t have the $$$
>>> to throw into the pot to help Ten Tec design a new radio. Shades of
>>> ATLAS Radio come to mind when the owner said the same thing. Help me
>>> fund this new radio, and you’ll be first to own one. All the investors
>>> lost all their money.
>>>
>>> One thing that I couldn’t understand was why Ten Tec dropped making
>>> some of the accessories that would match with their gear?They did in
>>> the past, like the antenna tuners for the corsair, the Triton’s.
>>> Ameritron can sell a four tube 811 amp for a price that makes is very
>>> easy to afford. Why can’t Ten Tec build such an amplifier? And not price
>> it at $2999?
>>>
>>> MFJ has ten full page ads in QST selling accessories. There had to be
>>> profit in those. But, that all being said, I never sat in one of the
>>> board meets at Ten Tec. Perhaps they were a money looser.
>>>
>>> I certainly don’t want to sound like a monday morning quarterback and
>>> say what I’d do, because that’s so easy to do. I don’t know have a
>>> clue about the internal workings of any company, not even the one I work
>> for.
>>>
>>> I will throw this into the hat.
>>>
>>> If Ten Tec does in fact show up at dayton 2016, I’ll be happy to
>>> volunteer a few hours every day at their booth. Elecraft has
>>> volunteers, why not Ten Tec?
>>>
>>> I wish the new owner the best of luck, and will continue to booster
>>> the company and purchase its products.
>>>
>>> I’m mike, wb8vge
>>>
>>> Mike Bryce
>>> prosolar@sssnet.com
>>>
>>>
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