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Kris,
When you said "Test one fuse at a time", I presume you meant Tube?
73, VE3DWI.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <km2km@twc.com> 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Model 411 amp (aka Centaur)
 I'm late chiming in.   My problem with the fuses has always been a shorted 
tube.  You are on the right track.   Test one fuse at a time, or start 
with one, add another, then the third.  BTW a matched set is better than 
an unmatched set HOWEVER,  I had three misc tubes gathered over the years 
and put them in and do pretty well with them.  I did that while waiting 
for a new matched set.  Now the matched set is on the shelf waiting their 
turn!!!
The guy at the local electronics store said to me one day when I bought a 
dozen fuses, "You do know that if you don't fix it then it will still blow 
fuses!" 
good luck,
Kris
Kris KM2KM
MERSCHROD
123 Warren Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
---- Joe Papworth via TenTec <tentec@contesting.com> wrote:
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It has stayed on with the tubes removed for a while.?
I'm examining/ohming the tubes now.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net>
To: wb5jnc <wb5jnc@centurytel.net>; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment 
<tentec@contesting.com> 
Sent: Tue, Jan 26, 2016 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Model 411 amp (aka Centaur)
Don't overlook the possibility on an intermittent short in one of the 
811's. 
Carl Moreschi N4PY
58 Hogwood Rd
Louisburg, NC 27549
www.n4py.com
On 1/26/2016 2:54 PM, Al Gulseth wrote:
 
Joe,
Just an ohms check may not be enough. You may be dealing with an 
intermittent 
breakdown under high voltage. A "hi-pot" (high potential) test with an
insulation tester etc. would be the only way to know for sure. A winding
layer to adjacent layer partial short in the HV side could also account 
for
your symptoms, and might not be obvious because the winding resistance 
could
show right at the low edge of the manufacturer's spec. (I went through 
that 
scenario years ago with a HV filter choke in a small AM BC transmitter.)
73 es GL, Al
On Tue January 26 2016 11:28:03 am Joe Papworth via TenTec wrote:
 
    Thanks Andy. Was it the HV secondary that shorted?
I isolated the HV secondary from the HV board and it reads open to 
the
frame and chassis. (Reads about 45 ohms when connected to the board)
   Thanks, Joe, K8MP
-----Original Message----- 
  From: P C Andy Anderson<xtraham58@hotmail.com> 
  To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment<tentec@contesting.com>
  Sent: Tue, Jan 26, 2016 11:52 am
  Subject: Re: [TenTec] Model 411 amp (aka Centaur)
Joe, I had a similar problem with my Centurion AMP.  It eventually 
failed
  completely. The secondary of the power transformer shorted to the 
frame. I
had the Xformer rewound at TRS.  BTW this transformer problem is a 
known. 
  73' Andy, W3LI
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  Tuesday noontime, Joe:
  I have a Centaur..............keep it covered when not in use.
My Elmer told me to always keep it covered..................dust is 
the 
  problem.
  Even when covered, open it up every two-three years and do a internal
  cleaning.
  N1MHC/alsirois
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  Gents,
  Have any of you gone a few rounds with a Centaur amp?
I have a one that blows fuses very intermittently. It vaporizes them 
both,
  simultaneously, so it's apparently a dead-short somewhere. This 
happens 
even in stand-by. (i.e. No key-down)
Before I tear into it, anyone have any ideas of common failures in 
these 
  amps?
  Later, Joe, K8MP
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