Sorry, one of the formatting problems with using an iPad instead of a MAC or PC.
Gary
> On Aug 17, 2016, at 1:03 AM, rick@dj0ip.de <Rick@DJ0IP.de> wrote:
>
> YES! Too bad the EAGLE isn't twice as big with a much larger screen and
> proper S-Meter.
>
> In all of this technical discussion, we seem to forget "THE" single most
> important point for selecting a radio . . . according to Rob Sherwood. And
> it's not Dynamic Range 3!
>
> According to Rob, the single most important criteria is, "we have to enjoy
> operating the radio."
> I have used a lot of really good radios that I simply did not like.
> Ergonomics is a big part of it.
>
> IMO, this is one of the reasons so many people are reluctant to move on to
> newer technology.
>
> One of our biggest problems is, technology, especially direct sampling, has
> enabled us to build outstanding radios into tiny little boxes, AND, it is
> difficult to convince any OEM that they should still put that radio into a
> large box with large display. How about a large front-facing loud speaker?
>
> I'm tired of having to squint my eyes to read the labels on Buttons or the
> S-Meter on my Eagle.
> Give me a large box with a huge heat-sink on the back and a large boxer fan
> running at half speed or less to cool it. It will be inaudible.
>
> Anyway, perhaps this is part of the dissatisfaction of the 7300.
> Perhaps those trading it back in previously had much larger boxes and were
> simply uncomfortable with the small size of the 7300.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary J
> FollettDukes HiFi
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:50 AM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: 7300 buy back program
>
> Paragon ? Maybe… Trade it for an Omni 6+ or an Orion…
>
> Eagle is a great choice but box is too small for my tastes.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:32 PM, Bwana Bob <wb2vuf@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Well, isn't there a mid-grade radio between "entry level" and "contest
>> grade"? I consider entry level to be the Alinco or the ICOM IC-718, both
>> under $1000. For $1500, I wouldn't expect a super contest radio, but I
>> would expect something better than entry level. (Ah, when I was a boy,
>> entry level was a used Hammarlund receiver and a Heathkit DX-60A).
>>
>> -Bob WB2VUF
>>
>>
>> On 8/15/2016 2:28 PM, rick@dj0ip.de wrote:
>>> In plain English Paul, it overloads MUCH too easily.
>>>
>>> To prevent that, you have to use a lot of attenuation; here in Europe
>>> even more than the radio has built in.
>>> Then it does not overload but you can no longer hear the really weak
>>> stations.
>>>
>>> In most day to day operation, this is not a problem.
>>> In contests it is. In its present state, it is not a serious contest radio.
>>>
>>> Icom has replied to this point in writing that it is an entry level
>>> radio, not a high end radio.
>>>
>>> On the bright side, contrary to many of the other Japanese radios
>>> shipping today (i.e. 7600 and ALL Yasues), it has a clean transmitter.
>>>
>>> Icom could fix this radio and potentially make it a great entry level
>>> radio but they will probably leave it like that so that users wanting
>>> more must pay more for the next higher radio. "That" was indeed my
>>> opinion; the bit on performance is fact.
>>>
>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>>> kd3jf.paulgates@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 7:47 PM
>>> To: k9yc@arrl.net; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: 7300 buy back program
>>>
>>> Exactly in plain English what is wrong with the 7300 Paul kw4bd Sent
>>> from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 15, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Barry,
>>>>
>>>> I don't disagree that all mfrs are looking at direct sampling RX,
>>>> and I
>>> agree that they should be. I'd call that wise investment in R&D. My
>>> assessment of the 7300 is that it's a budget level product that was
>>> oversold.
>>>> The fundamental issue right now with that technology is dynamic
>>>> range with
>>> the available chips, which are in the right price range because of
>>> the volume built for them by cell phones. Guys are making Flex 6700s
>>> work in contest superstations because the serious bandpass filtering
>>> they would need with any radio acts as an RX preselector, limiting
>>> the bandwidth of the spectrum that can overload the A/D. But that
>>> won't help in EU or AS, where broadcasters are in the passband of any
>>> practical filter on 40M, and there are some high power broadcasters
>>> close enough to 20M to make it a problem there too.
>>>> I think you've been happy with your ANAN in that regard. Are you
>>>> doing
>>> anything special to address the dynamic range issue?
>>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon,8/15/2016 5:22 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>>>>> I think dealers and manufacturers have stock piles of ALL
>>>>> superhets, not just the 7600. I think Rick is on the mark that the
>>>>> DEALER is simply motivated to move excess 7600 inventory.
>>>>>
>>>>> What Rick didn't mention is that there's a fresh rumor making the
>>>>> rounds that Icom is about to announce a direct sampling SDR
>>>>> replacement for the 7600. That's extra motivation to move 7600
>>> inventory.
>>>>> The 7300 has changed the game, period. Icom is sitting pretty.
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