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Re: [TenTec] When can I buy a new transceiver?

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] When can I buy a new transceiver?
From: Greg S via TenTec <tentec@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 12:34:34 -0400
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A certified pre-owned Flex 6400 is $1900. With front display (6400M) is $2900. 
With warranty and latest software, and all updates completed. That’s far from 
$6000. I can remember when JUST a touch screen of this resolution cost that. 
Things are changing fast. Keep up, or get out of the way....or the market will 
move you out of the way. 
73- Greg, KC8HXO 

Sent from my Linux device

> On Jul 28, 2018, at 09:05, Byron Cordes via TenTec <tentec@contesting.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Yes the Orion doesn’t have all the bells it does have the whistle! I do like 
> the way it handles 160  . Turn down gain 1/2 or so and signals weak and 
> strong sound great.
> Yes the Orion is showing it’s age! But it was the best radio out there for 
> years! Maybe there are better radios now but not many and none for the price 
> of a used Orion
>  Myself I use 4 different radios each has there high and low ‘s  .  I think 
> radios are a lot like antennas , one can never have to many ! 
>  What will be interesting is seeing where the radio manufacturers go from 
> here . Icom has changed the game with the 7300 (sold thousands!) a good radio 
> that does a lot of things good . What will Yaesu Kenwood and the others bring 
> out? There’s a small market for $6000 radios( Flex Elecraft and the other 
> flag ships) or will the manufacturers slowly have sales go down (because of 
> brand loyalty ) 
> There might be fewer manufacturers in 5 years , there will thousands of used 
> 7300 where those owner might want to up grade. There are just a few new Ham 
> getting in to this sport and a lot of us are old. So probably less Radio 
> sales ,less money , less manufacturers to build less radio .     Maybe I 
> better get another Orion !
> Byron AC9PA 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2018, at 2:12 PM, Keith Hanson <ac9s@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I purchased an OII at Dayton the first year they came out and couldn't have 
>> been more happy.  It was fully loaded including the remote pod and served me 
>> well for many years.  The only thing it appeared to lack was a reasonable 
>> panadapter / waterfall display which Ten Tec faithfully promised me year 
>> after year at Dayton and never delivered. I would have been happy with the 
>> equivalent of my 756Pro display, but it never appeared. However, time 
>> marches; I replaced the OII in the main position with a Flex 6700 / 
>> Maestrocombination several years ago and relegated the Orion to back-up duty.
>> 
>> Honestly, with the exception of AGC slope, I find the Flex to be superior in 
>> every respect.  I have done numerous A/B comparisons and I don't think there 
>> was ever a time when the Orion receiver would have delivered better than the 
>> Flex.  The Flex Panafall display, a combination panadapter / waterfall, 
>> makes pile-ups easy and is wonderful on "dead" bands.  I rarely listen to 
>> the "split" anymore in a pile-up, I can tell where DX is listening by 
>> spreading the pile-up across the entire screen and seeing calling stations.  
>> Plus the ability to look at all the bands simultaneously during a contest 
>> changes that part of the equation.
>> 
>> Bottom line for me now is that although I have lobbied for on OIII for years 
>> I don't think I would buy one if it were offered - unless somehow it were to 
>> beat Flex SmartSDR at its game.  That is doubtful, but I'll keep an open 
>> mind.
>> 
>> Keith - AC9S
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