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Re: Topband: Best small space antennas

To: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <olinger@bellsouth.net>, <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Best small space antennas
From: "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@centurytel.net>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 22:33:24 -0600
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Guy--(and others who may contribute)
I have been following your posts, and have some questions, brought on by a 
view at the W0UCE diagrams, at:
http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html
The top figure seems to match what I understood from your post, but the 
figure that includes the Inv "L" confuses me, particularly with regard to 
the connections. I need a more simplistic description, including the 
connections to the transformer
Thanks- Bill--W4BSG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <olinger@bellsouth.net>
To: "Jim Miller Waco Texas WB5OXQ" <wb5oxq_1@grandecom.net>
Cc: <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Best small space antennas


> Note: the following is not a theoretical or untested antenna.  There
> are working antennas in the field using the folded counterpoise
> described below, scoring well in contests**, in use up to a year and
> more.  Contest scores of the sort attained are not made using antennas
> with significant deficiencies or fundamental flaws.
>
> A miscellaneous end-fed inverted L or end-fed inverted U over an
> elevated 5/16 wave single wire folded counterpoise (FCP) will have
> good radiation from a small lot, with the ability to put out a strong
> signal not usually associated with small lots.  In the simple
> implementation of this antenna (160 only), the length of the L or U is
> adjusted for zero reactance, usually resulting in a 50-60 ohm feed Z
> at resonance.
>
> There are NO radials.  The main design point of the antenna is to
> minimize lossy currents induced in the dirt and confine TX signal
> current to the FCP and the radiating wire.  This is a real, and lossy
> issue for a few short or miscellaneous radials.  Enough of an issue to
> kill 15 dB.
>
> The radiating wire first goes up as much vertical as you can manage,
> then out as far as manageable, and then down if length is still needed
> to prune to resonance.  The main point is to pick a feed point on the
> property that has your best vertical rise and then get the rest of the
> length for resonance however you can. For some properties this has
> meant putting extra angles in the up+over+down radiator.  Some
> properties will not need the "down" part.
>
> The antenna uses a REQUIRED isolation transformer at the feed point
> because the counterpoise is NOT resonant, and the feed would really
> rather use the much lower Z but hugely lossy coax shield current as a
> counterpoise.  The folds in the FCP are designed to maximally reduce
> counterpoise fields at the ground, reducing lossy currents in the
> dirt.
>
> The isolation transformer's leftover inductive reactance, a
> disadvantage in many applications, in this case helps to tune out the
> capacitive reactance of the FCP and reduces the length of the
> radiating wire needed to achieve simple resonance for the antenna.
>
> The counterpoise extends plus and minus 33 feet from the feed point,
> 167 feet folded into 66 linear feet occupied on the property. The
> middle 20 feet of the 66 should be straight, but either end can be
> bent away from the straight line to accommodate the property.  Up 8
> feet or higher is recommended.  Lowering the counterpoise increases
> the coupling to dirt, increasing losses.
>
> The isolation transformer uses the same physical components as a
> balun, but the unlike the balun there is NO connection of any kind
> between the primary and secondary windings.  This is accomplished with
> twenty bifilar turns of double polyimide insulated #14 with teflon
> sleeving wound on an Amidon T300A-2  #2 material powdered iron toroid.
> One wire is the primary, and the other is the secondary.  The low MU
> powdered iron toroid was picked over time to avoid heating, still
> provide required coupling, with other choices sometimes failing in
> spectacular fashion.  We have no information of our currently-used
> winding method on the Amidon T300A-2 ever failing for any cause,
> though we would not expect it to survive a direct lightning strike.
>
> With the isolation transformer, the antenna and FCP is entirely above
> ground and not connected to anything else. We use a 5 megohm resistor,
> in parallel with a non-resistor lawn mower spark plug, from the FCP to
> ground as a static drain. The gap drains lightning induced voltage to
> protect the resistor, the resistor drains wind, snow, rain static.
> The resistor and gap protect the winding from a voltage puncture that
> will grow into a carbon track to ground.
>
> 73, Guy.
>
> **  As reported in Dec 2011 CQ, Jan 2011 CW160CW contest, USA low
> power unassisted, the 29 scores over 100K out of 335 scored logs in
> class:
>
> Station, state, score, QSO, ST+PROV, DX
>
> K9AY   WI  259,346 991 58 36
> W0UO   TX  250,716 882 58 44
> K1EP   MA  232,750 909 56 39
> K2AV   NC  223,908 907 57 37 << No radials, 5/16 FCP
> K8BL   OH  203,328 819 58 38
>
> KU1CW  KS  197,885 795 58 37
> N2WN   TN  191,090 640 55 42
> WB8JUI OH  190,372 852 58 38
> N7IR   AZ  183,855 856 58 27
> W2TZ   NY  178,633 723 56 35
>
>
> NA8V   MI  177,030 793 59 31
> W4AA   FL  173,619 494 56 45
> K1HTV  VA  172,956 733 55 32
> W1WBB  RI  161,550 654 55 35
> KU8E   GA  152,613 615 58 35
>
> W7RH   AZ  135,369 500 55 34
> K4WI   AL  128,520 509 55 30
> N9NCK  WI  126,162 516 55 31
> KV8Q   OH  125,741 674 57 20
> N9AUG  OH  125,330 608 55 28
>
>
> W2TX   FL  121,800 504 52 35
> K9QVB  IL  120,120 641 56 21
> WW3S   PA  119,848 706 55 16
> K2UF   NY  119,392 541 53 29
> K0PK   MN  118,400 678 58 16
>
> WF4U   UT  114,239 664 56 15
> W1BYH  MA  106,444 404 54 35
> W5WMU  LA  106,020 574 54 22
> N4JF   AL  101,920 493 54 26
>
> ** 3830 claimed scores listing of Dec 2011 ARRL 160 contest, North
> America low power unassisted, top 20 of 119 listed as of this writing:
>
> Station, state, score, QSO, ST/PROV, DX
> 2011 ARRL 160 - 3830 Claimed Scores 06Dec2011
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Call               QSOs   Sec Cntry   hr      Score Club
> NA Single Op LP
> K8FH               920    74    18    27    175,076 Medina 2 Meter Group
> NE9U               978    75    14          172,927 MWA
> K4FT               976    75     9    28    166,236 KCG
> WB8JUI             940    71     9 21.32    152,560
> K0TI               920    76     5    21    150,255 MWA
> K0DI               875    75     8    28    146,495 Lincoln ARC
> K2AV               788    65     9  21.5    119,066 PVRC    << No
> radials, 5/16 FCP
> W0DLE              725    74     3    21    112,343 Grand Mesa
> K9MMS              653    74    10    16    112,224 SMC
> K0PK               657    72     6    19    104,130 MWA
>
> K3PA               618    74     7          101,817 Kansas City DX Club
> WA1FCN             645    68     7           99,864 ACG
> K2ZR               695    64     4  20.0     90,112 Western NY DX Associ
> K0AD               584    75     6    10     88,500 MWA
> W0UO               519    71     9    14     85,680 NTCC
> K0CN               478    73    11           83,076 MWA
> N1IX               516    60    10    13     78,540 YCCC
> VE3OSZ             442    68    15           77,854 CCO
> W9ZRX              492    69     8  20.5     77,616 SMC
> W7RH               437    72     8           76,869 Arizona Outlaws Cont
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Jim Miller Waco Texas WB5OXQ
> <wb5oxq_1@grandecom.net> wrote:
>> With limited space what is the best antenna for 160? The only room 
>> available is a 130X50' area. Ground radials will be nearly impossable to 
>> put in large enough to be of much value. 1/4 wave antenna tried, very 
>> narrowband and interfeared with every receiving device in a block. I may 
>> just be out of luck. wb5oxq
>> _______________________________________________
>> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
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