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Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation

To: <robert.chortek@berliner.com>, <zr@jeremy.mv.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
From: James Rodenkirch <rodenkirch_llc@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:51:20 -0600
List-post: <topband@contesting.com">mailto:topband@contesting.com>
I don't think that's what Jim F. is/was alluding to....

 

 

> From: Robert.Chortek@berliner.com
> To: zr@jeremy.mv.com
> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:44:13 -0700
> CC: j_fitton@yahoo.com; Topband@contesting.com; n5ia@zia-connection.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
> 
> I think the idea is that a qrp station might not be heard by a station so 
> weak the qrp station needs a beverage to hear him. 
> 
> Of course, one could describe circumstances where that would be true and 
> others where it would not be true. 
> 
> I thought it was clever....
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob/AA6VB
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:38 PM, "ZR" <zr@jeremy.mv.com> wrote:
> 
> > That makes absolutely no sense when at the edge of reception.
> > 
> > Carl
> > KM1H
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jim F." <j_fitton@yahoo.com>
> > To: "Milt -- N5IA" <n5ia@zia-connection.com>
> > Cc: <Topband@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
> > 
> > 
> > QRPers generally do not need Beverages as much as other stations
> > do.
> > 
> > Think about that one for awhile.
> > 
> > jim / W1FMR
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Milt -- N5IA <n5ia@zia-connection.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: Milt -- N5IA <n5ia@zia-connection.com>
> >> Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
> >> To:
> >> Cc: Topband@contesting.com
> >> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 2:23 PM
> >> Beverages do NOT make lightning
> >> caused static crashes go away. They can
> >> significantly reduce the received level of the crashes from
> >> the directions
> >> different from the listening direction.
> >> 
> >> However, in the listening direction Beverages will actually
> >> "clear up" the
> >> crashes being heard from that direction. In other
> >> words, those crashes will
> >> become the predominant ones you hear with the exception of
> >> those caused by
> >> local storms.
> >> 
> >> The crashes from the listening direction will not be as
> >> strong as they will
> >> be when listening on the TX antenna.
> >> 
> >> The points I am trying to make are:
> >> 
> >> 1. Beverages work VERY well.
> >> 
> >> 2. Beverages will NOT eliminate all static crashes.
> >> 
> >> 3. There is no silver bullet, but Beverages are about
> >> as close to the
> >> perfect solution as you can get.
> >> 
> >> 4. There is NO substitute for acreage. I
> >> sincerely wish everyone had the
> >> capability of installing Beverages. But that wish is
> >> no different than my
> >> wish that we all had our TX antennas at the edge of a salty
> >> ocean beach.
> >> So, we live with what we have.
> >> 
> >> Mis dos centavos,
> >> 
> >> de Milt, N5IA
> >> 
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> From: Guy Olinger K2AV
> >> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:19 AM
> >> 
> >> Only if they have space for them.
> >> 
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:59 AM, K4OWR <k2owr@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> :::: When I switch to my beverage antenna the noise pretty
> >> much goes to
> >> almost nothing.
> >> Don't most serious operators have one....or more???
> >> BILL K4OWR
> >> 
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> On 3/19/2012 10:22 AM, N7DF wrote:
> >> 
> >> During the summer the storm static is the main obstacle to
> >> top band
> >> operation here 40 over nine crashes every
> >> 30 seconds kind of drown out
> >> everything, QRP or QRO
> >> 
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > 
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