Ok ... I call foul k6xt....
Most all digital mode ops are watching the waterfall .... its hard not to miss
CW.....
Most fair digital ops can recognize a fair number if digital mode by site ....
Cw being the most easy.... SSB stands out like a big, fat, thumb.
Mike KC7NOA
> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:37:04 -0600
> From: k6xt@arrl.net
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: The use of digital modes on 160 metres
>
> Exactly. And it applies to digi operators too, many of whom are not
> listening for CW or anything else in my very own personal experience.
> Their software is in control - who needs to look at a radio's S meter
> or, heaven forbid, actually listen to it? seems to be a common operating
> situation. Ergo jamming, intentional or not.
>
> Its also true that no CW contester I know of will sit on a freq for up
> to a minute (or even 10 seconds) waiting to see if someone's already
> using it. No doubt at all there's plenty of potential for conflict in
> the 1835-1840 area. Which returns me to my starting point of agreement
> with Tom about the unfortunate choice of that range for digi ops.
>
> Since I don't use SSB and find some other band in the 160SSB tests, I
> haven't had the pleasure you describe.
>
> IMO Tom's fruitful discussion would begin "where can we move digi ops
> out of the 35-40 segment so there's reduced impact on activity
> preexisting since the dawn of creation, and do it such that the digi ops
> - many of whom probably also use CW and SSB on 160 - don't need to add
> more antenna switching or a separate antenna".
>
> A discussion about how regularly parts of the band are used for DX is,
> IMHO, specious. Obviously there isn't likely to be much activity til the
> band opens somewhere and a DX station shows up.
>
> PS: Lest anyone think I'm unduly biased, while not a regular I have used
> digital modes including JT65 on 160 and other bands.
>
> 73 Art K6XT~~
> Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm.
> ARRL, GMCC, CW OPS, NAQCC
> ARRL TA
>
> On 9/16/2012 1:19 PM, Jim wrote:
> > Jam existing CW? What about the SSB stations down around 1820 during a
> > contest? NO ONE has the right to any frequency. Whoever gets there
> > first and uses it takes priority.
>
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