Hi All,
Thanks for all reply regarding HC1PF on top band. I will respond to each direct
emails
73 Rune LA7THA
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> 1. Fwd: PQ0T active in 160 (Felipe Fogagnolo)
> 2. 8R on 160m? (Neil Carr)
> 3. Re: 8R on 160m? (?????? ???????)
> 4. Re: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160 (Steve HA0DU)
> 5. Re: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160 (Dick Grolleman)
> 6. Re: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160 (Dave Heil)
> 7. My new one (Andrzej_SP6AEG)
> 8. Re: HVDC (Carl)
> 9. K1N 5000q's on 160 (Jos? E. Ribeiro de S?)
> 10. 1/2 wave inv L (Art Snapper)
> 11. Re: 1/2 wave inv L (Richard (Rick) Karlquist)
> 12. Re: 1/2 wave inv L (Art Snapper)
> 13. What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna?
> (Herbert Schoenbohm)
> 14. Re: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna?
> (Richard (Rick) Karlquist)
> 15. Re: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna?
> (Herbert Schoenbohm)
> 16. Re: K1N 5000q's on 160 (Garry Shapiro)
> 17. Re: K1N 5000q's on 160 (Garry Shapiro)
> 18. Re: K1N 5000q's on 160 (Jim Brown)
> 19. Re: K1N 5000q's on 160 (Eugene Popov /RA0FF/)
> 20. K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M (Milt -- N5IA)
> 21. Re: K1N 5000q's on 160 (Milt -- N5IA)
> 22. HC1PF Luis on TB (Rune ?ye)
> 23. Re: HC1PF Luis on TB (Guy Olinger K2AV)
> 24. Re: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna? (Tom W8JI)
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:34:33 -0200
> From: Felipe Fogagnolo <brports@gmail.com>
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Topband: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160
> Message-ID:
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> PP5FF .
>
> I sent an email to Jaime PP5JD PQ0T operator, about activation in 160 .
>
> R:
> Hello Felipe , we will operate 160m , but little things as we would it
> ONLY 2 Nights , and When liver hum available Operator
>
> we will be a few hours p / week .
>
> WHEN speak in 80m , ask if we can do QSY p / 160 .
>
> 73, Jaime PP5JD
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:35:59 -0000
> From: "Neil Carr" <g0jhc@blueyonder.co.uk>
> To: <topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Topband: 8R on 160m?
> Message-ID: <003601d04945$dca86960$95f93c20$@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I swapped emails with 4 European "top gun" operators of late, all in the
> 270-290 DXCC bracket and all who still needed 8R on 160m. I assumed I had
> just been incompetent in missing this one so far, (QRV since 2007) but it
> seems quite rare? I don't know how rare 8R is in NA, but certainly the past
> 10 yrs it hasn't been too active on 160m? The purpose of this email to the
> reflector is to "Put it on the list" of any of you fine folk who can go on
> DXpedition and are thinking "where next" . It would be a good one to choose
> Winter 2015. I appreciate it is far from rare on ANY of the other bands.
> Which may be the problem.
>
> Neil G0JHC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:54:54 +0300
> From: ?????? ??????? <ua6a@mail.ru>
> To: Neil Carr <g0jhc@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Cc: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: 8R on 160m?
> Message-ID: <1424022894.584857814@f216.i.mail.ru>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Yes Neil, Ineed 8R on 160...
> Have CFM 291 countrys
> 73!
>
> ???????????, 15 ??????? 2015, 17:35 UTC ?? "Neil Carr"
> <g0jhc@blueyonder.co.uk>:
> >I swapped emails with 4 European "top gun" operators of late, all in the
> >270-290 DXCC bracket and all who still needed 8R on 160m. I assumed I had
> >just been incompetent in missing this one so far, (QRV since 2007) but it
> >seems quite rare? I don't know how rare 8R is in NA, but certainly the past
> >10 yrs it hasn't been too active on 160m? The purpose of this email to the
> >reflector is to "Put it on the list" of any of you fine folk who can go on
> >DXpedition and are thinking "where next" . It would be a good one to choose
> >Winter 2015. I appreciate it is far from rare on ANY of the other bands.
> >Which may be the problem.
> >
> >Neil G0JHC
> >
> >?
> >
> >?
> >
> >?
> >
> >
> >_________________
> >Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:16:59 +0100
> From: Steve HA0DU <ha0du@dx.hu>
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160
> Message-ID: <54E0E29B.3040202@dx.hu>
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> Hopefully they do a better job on 160, than PP0T, who worked 6 stations
> (including 3 Europeans) on 160 in about six weeks time...
>
>
>
> 2015.02.15. 18:34 keltez?ssel, Felipe Fogagnolo ?rta:
> > PP5FF .
> >
> > I sent an email to Jaime PP5JD PQ0T operator, about activation in 160 .
> >
> > R:
> > Hello Felipe , we will operate 160m , but little things as we would it
> > ONLY 2 Nights , and When liver hum available Operator
> >
> > we will be a few hours p / week .
> >
> > WHEN speak in 80m , ask if we can do QSY p / 160 .
> >
> > 73, Jaime PP5JD
> > _________________
> > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
> >
> >
>
>
> ---
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:27:40 +0100
> From: "Dick Grolleman" <groll064@planet.nl>
> To: <topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160
> Message-ID: <F92F200E87EA48A4B963B9D0DDFE4CA8@Dick>
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>
> ZY0T did work some 160m in October 2009.
> 119 QSOs : EU 79; NA 32; SA 8
>
> I was lucky with that one.
> Maybe ask PY1NB what he used for antenna on TB.
> They were only on for 4 days.
>
> 73 de Dick PA3FQA
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> From: Steve HA0DU
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 7:16 PM
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160
>
> Hopefully they do a better job on 160, than PP0T, who worked 6 stations
> (including 3 Europeans) on 160 in about six weeks time...
>
>
>
> 2015.02.15. 18:34 keltez?ssel, Felipe Fogagnolo ?rta:
> > PP5FF .
> >
> > I sent an email to Jaime PP5JD PQ0T operator, about activation in 160 .
> >
> > R:
> > Hello Felipe , we will operate 160m , but little things as we would it
> > ONLY 2 Nights , and When liver hum available Operator
> >
> > we will be a few hours p / week .
> >
> > WHEN speak in 80m , ask if we can do QSY p / 160 .
> >
> > 73, Jaime PP5JD
> > _________________
> > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
> >
> >
>
>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:10:06 +0000
> From: Dave Heil <k8mn@frontiernet.net>
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160
> Message-ID: <54E0EF0E.3020802@frontiernet.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> As did PW0T in 2005. I don't know how many 160m QSOs they made but I
> worked and confirmed them.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave K8MN
>
>
> On 2/15/2015 18 27, Dick Grolleman wrote:
> > ZY0T did work some 160m in October 2009.
> > 119 QSOs : EU 79; NA 32; SA 8
> >
> > I was lucky with that one.
> > Maybe ask PY1NB what he used for antenna on TB.
> > They were only on for 4 days.
> >
> > 73 de Dick PA3FQA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:10:55 +0100
> From: "Andrzej_SP6AEG" <andrzej_aeg@interia.pl>
> To: <topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Topband: My new one
> Message-ID: <E8F6EE3528774E41AAB9741CF78EF3D0@andy>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> At this moment, I hope that this season will end up not so bad for me. I
> didn't manage to call-out for VK9DLX, 5R8M.
>
> I have tried K1N every night when they were active, more than 10 hours of
> calling in total, but with no response.
>
> I've got over 260 entities cfm for TB. I hope that 8R and PQ0T will be my
> new ones for 160 and will turn the streak of bad luck from me.
>
> Running below 800 wtts into T antenna.
>
>
>
> 73 de Andy
>
> SP6AEG
>
> from the old school
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:24:21 -0500
> From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.qozzy.com>
> To: <topband@contesting.com>, "Ws9v" <ws9v@royell.net>, "Jeff Kincaid"
> <w6jk@sbcglobal.net>, <mstangelo@comcast.net>, "Mike Waters"
> <mikewate@gmail.com>, <n0tt1@juno.com>, <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>,
> "Grant Saviers" <grants2@pacbell.net>
> Subject: Re: Topband: HVDC
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> reply-type=original
>
> A 500KV DC line that is part of the major Northeast corridor has been about
> 3/4 mile from me for 15 years or so and absolutely quiet as are the much
> older 100 and 250 KV AC lines in the same Northeast corridor which
> originates in Hydro Quebec and the Seabrook nuke. My noise sources are
> always the residential 14KV ones or from homes and farm barns.
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ws9v" <ws9v@royell.net>
> To: <topband@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 12:52 PM
> Subject: Topband: HVDC
>
>
> > Hi All
> >
> >
> > Through the center part of Illinois they have begun work at the government
> > level to install a 690,000 VDC power line As with all this there is huge
> > amount of opposition an even groups trying to ban it
> >
> > Does anyone have any experience with a line of such high VDC as a noise
> > source ? It will pass within 3/4 of a mile south of my QTH
> >
> >
> >
> > I am really concerned my only hope if this goes thru is to pull up stakes
> > an move rather than attempt to fight its noise
> >
> > Any thoughts
> >
> > de WS9V Skip
> >
> >
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:32:03 -0000
> From: Jos? E. Ribeiro de S? <zemurtosa@mail.telepac.pt>
> To: "Herbert Schoenbohm" <herbs@vitelcom.net>, "TopBand List"
> <topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160
> Message-ID: <C3584C7A00A24B16A926070A62C16C76@ct1eeb>
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> reply-type=response
>
> Excellent indeed, made my topband QSO with K1N in the first couple of days
> of operation :)
>
> Just wished VU4KV and EP6T did like this, but they haven't dedicated to
> topband that much, maybe next time.
>
> 73 Jose CT1EEB
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herbert Schoenbohm" <herbs@vitelcom.net>
> To: "TopBand List" <topband@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 1:21 PM
> Subject: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160
>
>
> >I just had a short chat with Jerry on 40 meters and he reported they logged
> >over 5,000 contacts on 160 meters. This is nothing short of awesome and
> >significantly helped somewhat by gaining access to the lighthouse as a
> >support for their low band dipoles on TX. But without a doubt the devotion
> >by this group to topband should not go unrewarded. Even if you did not need
> >Navassa on 160 their efforts on TB stand as an excellent example of how
> >import the inclusion of specialized operators and equipment are.
> >
> > On a related note, PQ0T will be on from Trindade (rare on 160) but have no
> > plans to operate on Top Band. The may however, if the emails keep coming
> > into them showing the demand, may try to load something up on 160 for at
> > least one of the three nights they are there.
> >
> >
> > Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
> > _________________
> > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:35:33 -0500
> From: Art Snapper <art@nk8x.net>
> To: 160 <topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Topband: 1/2 wave inv L
> Message-ID:
> <CAH6JzykUPEoR89zQ+FT2N43mDG3hxhiiWZEH2q8D+xxioqyM0w@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I have been researching the inverted L for 160, and have received much
> helpful information. - Thanks!
>
> Today I stumbled across a document regarding the 1/2 wave inverted L.
>
> Has anyone done a side-by-side comparison?
>
> 73
> Art NK8X
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:52:44 -0800
> From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
> To: Art Snapper <art@nk8x.net>, 160 <topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: 1/2 wave inv L
> Message-ID: <54E1233C.3030808@karlquist.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> On 2/15/2015 2:35 PM, Art Snapper wrote:
> > I have been researching the inverted L for 160, and have received much
> > helpful information. - Thanks!
> >
> > Today I stumbled across a document regarding the 1/2 wave inverted L.
> >
> > Has anyone done a side-by-side comparison?
> > Art NK8X
> > _________________
>
> I have modeled it and the results are predictable. About
> half your power goes into likely useless horizontally
> polarized radiation. If you instead make a top loaded
> ("T" type) vertical where the sum of the height and half
> the top wire is a half wave, then you get a "voltage fed"
> vertical that behaves pretty much like a half wave
> vertical. Since the drive impedance is high, you MIGHT
> get away with a much less extensive counterpoise.
> There is some controversy about this.
>
> Rick N6RK
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:12:27 -0500
> From: Art Snapper <art@nk8x.net>
> To: 160 <topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: 1/2 wave inv L
> Message-ID:
> <CAH6Jzym7UBkH1R5yx_V71=mR3CKLo7BUV2xNgtm=OPRpcRVmYA@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Here is a link to the document.
>
> http://www.mfjenterprises.com/antennatalk7.php
>
> There is very little information, but don't recall seeing seeing the 1/2
> wave L in my antenna books.
>
> Art
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Art Snapper <art@nk8x.net> wrote:
>
> > I have been researching the inverted L for 160, and have received much
> > helpful information. - Thanks!
> >
> > Today I stumbled across a document regarding the 1/2 wave inverted L.
> >
> > Has anyone done a side-by-side comparison?
> >
> > 73
> > Art NK8X
> > _________________
> > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:15:54 -0400
> From: Herbert Schoenbohm <herbert.schoenbohm@gmail.com>
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Topband: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna?
> Message-ID: <54E128AA.2020601@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> Many years ago when topbanders were looking for better efficiency and
> something thart would radiate with limited space lots there was the "Z"
> which was essentially a way of feeding a 1/2 wave sloper from a tapped
> coil L/C circuit at the shack end by running the first 1/4 wave of wire
> close to the ground (were it was claimed to do minimum radiation since
> it was voltage rather than current fed) and then sloping it upward to a
> tree or pole with the top portion doubled back horizontal to the ground
> below. It has been many years since I heard of this antenna that was
> supposed to minimize ground connection loss and provide some vertical
> radiation (DX) component. Nor am I aware that anyone has model this
> design as there were even some folded back version to save space.
>
>
> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
> > I have modeled it and the results are predictable. About
> > half your power goes into likely useless horizontally
> > polarized radiation. If you instead make a top loaded
> > ("T" type) vertical where the sum of the height and half
> > the top wire is a half wave, then you get a "voltage fed"
> > vertical that behaves pretty much like a half wave
> > vertical. Since the drive impedance is high, you MIGHT
> > get away with a much less extensive counterpoise.
> > There is some controversy about this.
> >
> > Rick N6RK
> > _________________
> > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:53:38 -0800
> From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
> To: Herbert Schoenbohm <herbert.schoenbohm@gmail.com>,
> topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna?
> Message-ID: <54E13182.4020206@karlquist.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> On 2/15/2015 3:15 PM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote:
> > Many years ago when topbanders were looking for better efficiency and
> > something thart would radiate with limited space lots there was the "Z"
> > which was essentially a way of feeding a 1/2 wave sloper from a tapped
> > coil L/C circuit at the shack end by running the first 1/4 wave of wire
> > close to the ground (were it was claimed to do minimum radiation since
> > it was voltage rather than current fed) and then sloping it upward to a
> > tree or pole with the top portion doubled back horizontal to the ground
>
> > Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
>
> This is a fallacy. Where you feed the antenna doesn't affect where
> it radiates. You would get the same results if you fed it as a bent
> dipole at the junction between the first 1/4 wave and the upward
> sloping portion. Which is to say poor results.
>
> Rick N6RK
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:18:14 -0400
> From: Herbert Schoenbohm <herbs@vitelcom.net>
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna?
> Message-ID: <54E13746.2070607@vitelcom.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> Rick, I think it had more to do with getting something out of the shack
> window with the tuner inside. I also think it had more to getting the
> current maximum at the top of the pole. The OT's used to tell me they
> just taped a #47 bulb and a small loop of wire at the top and fed some
> power 20 watts or so at night and then trimmed the far end for maximum
> brilliance to try and get the current maximum at the top of the slant
> wire. With some vertical component and horizontal cancellation I can
> not see how this was a *bad* antenna for beginners on TB.
>
>
> Herb, KV4FZ
> On 2/15/2015 7:53 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:
> > On 2/15/2015 3:15 PM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote:
> >> Many years ago when topbanders were looking for better efficiency and
> >> something thart would radiate with limited space lots there was the "Z"
> >> which was essentially a way of feeding a 1/2 wave sloper from a tapped
> >> coil L/C circuit at the shack end by running the first 1/4 wave of wire
> >> close to the ground (were it was claimed to do minimum radiation since
> >> it was voltage rather than current fed) and then sloping it upward to a
> >> tree or pole with the top portion doubled back horizontal to the ground
> >
> >> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
> >
> > This is a fallacy. Where you feed the antenna doesn't affect where
> > it radiates. You would get the same results if you fed it as a bent
> > dipole at the junction between the first 1/4 wave and the upward
> > sloping portion. Which is to say poor results.
> >
> > Rick N6RK
> > _________________
> > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 16:54:33 -0800
> From: Garry Shapiro <garry@ni6t.com>
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160
> Message-ID: <54E13FC9.9000800@ni6t.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> Milt,
>
> One factor influencing the results is that topband has not been a focus
> for DXpeds for all that long. Time was that 2000 Q's was considered a
> major achievement and that was not so long ago. Pretty much the same for
> RTTY. Operating time used to be assigned grudgingly. The numbers have
> gone up due to audience demand.
>
> Garry, NI6T
>
> On 2/14/2015 8:45 PM, Milt -- N5IA wrote:
> > With a bit of time on my hands, and using some information and links
> > sent to me by persons responding to my post earlier today, I have
> > compiled the following list of All Time Topband DXpedition leaders for
> > total 160 Meter Qs.
> >
> > The following list of 7 DXpeditions are head and shoulders above the
> > rest of the pack, so far as I have been able to discover in the records.
> >
> > Most other major DXpedtions list total Topband Qs in the 2,500 to
> > 3,500 range. Very interesting.
> >
> > Enjoy, and if anyone has further information, please forward it to me.
> > Thanks, and have a great, leisurely weekend now that you don't have to
> > pursue K1N.
> >
> > 73 de Milt, N5IA
> >
> > ===================================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> > #1
> >
> > 5A7A, Libya, near Tripoli, with the entire European continent less
> > than 4,000 KM distant.
> >
> > CW SSB RTTY PSK Total
> > 160 M 6344 928 283 98 7653
> > ===================================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> > #2
> >
> > K5D, Desecheo, Caribbean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less
> > than 5,600 KM distant.
> >
> > SSB CW RTTY Total
> > 160 M 1983 5213 0 7196
> > ===================================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> > #3
> >
> > VP6DX, Ducie Atoll, from the middle of the south Pacific in the
> > southern hemisphere summer.
> > There was strong QRN and somewhat shorter nights (operating periods on
> > Topband).
> >
> > ZL = 5,400+ KM; VK = 8,000 to 11,700 KM; KH6 = 5,800+ KM; JA =
> > 11,900+ KM;
> > west coast of South America = 5,000+ KM; Rio de Janeiro = 8,100 KM;
> > San Diego, USA = 6,400 KM; NYC, USA = 8,900 KM;
> > and in EU -- Madrid = 14,200 KM; London = 14,400 KM; Berlin = 15,200
> > KM;
> > Rome = 15,690 KM; Moscow = 16,100 KM; Athens = 16,600 KM.
> >
> > CW SSB RTTY Total
> > 160 M 5097 1574 0 6671
> > ===================================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> > #4
> >
> > K1N, Navassa, Carribean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less
> > than 5,600 KM distant.
> >
> > CW SSB RTTY Total
> > 160 M 5399 0 0 5399 plus what is worked
> > the last night, 15 Feb 15.
> > ==================================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> > #5
> >
> > T32C, Kiritimati Island, from near the center of the Pacific Ocean,
> > 200 KM north of the Equator.
> >
> > ZL = 5,100+ KM; VK = 6,200 to 10,000 KM; KH6 = 1,900+ KM; JA =
> > 7,400+ KM;
> > west coast of South America = 8,500+ KM; Rio de Janeiro = 12,600 KM;
> > San Diego, USA = 5,400 KM; NYC, USA = 9,300 KM;
> > and in EU -- Madrid = 14,600 KM; London = 13,700 KM; Berlin = 13,900
> > KM;
> > Rome = 15,050 KM; Moscow = 13,460 KM; Athens = 15,580 KM.
> >
> > SSB CW PSK RTTY PSK63F Total
> > 160 M 917 3573 4 449 41 4984
> > ==================================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> > #6
> >
> > HK0NA, Malpelo, off SW coast of Central America, with the entire USA
> > and most of Canada less
> > than 7,000 KM distant.
> >
> > SSB CW RTTY Total
> > 160 M 802 4138 0 4940
> > ==================================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> > #7
> >
> > TX5K, Clipperton Island, off SW coast of Mexico, with the entire USA
> > and most of Canada less
> > than 6,000 KM distant.
> >
> > SSB CW RTTY Total
> > 160 M 423 3662 0 4085
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
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> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 16:57:12 -0800
> From: Garry Shapiro <garry@ni6t.com>
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160
> Message-ID: <54E14068.2060608@ni6t.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> Jim,
>
> What do you mean by FT5ZM being "nowhere near the sea"?
>
> Garry
>
> On 2/14/2015 10:00 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> > On Sat,2/14/2015 8:45 PM, Milt -- N5IA wrote:
> >> With a bit of time on my hands, and using some information and links
> >> sent to me by persons responding to my post earlier today, I have
> >> compiled the following list of All Time Topband DXpedition leaders
> >> for total 160 Meter Qs.
> >
> > This is one of those achievements were simple numbers don't tell the
> > whole story. Considering their location, special mention ought to be
> > made of FT5ZM (3,578 Qs, 789 of them to North America, halfway round
> > the world and nowhere near the sea), of PT0S (3,027 Qs from four
> > operators on some rocks in the South Atlantic), and of the several
> > other two-man expeditions by George and Tomi for which statistics are
> > not on ClubLog.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
> >
> >
> > _________________
> > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:17:11 -0800
> From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160
> Message-ID: <54E14517.5080005@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> On Sun,2/15/2015 4:57 PM, Garry Shapiro wrote:
> > What do you mean by FT5ZM being "nowhere near the sea"?
>
> My error. Sorry.
>
> Jim
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 05:53:30 +0300
> From: Eugene Popov /RA0FF/ <ra0ff@mail.ru>
> To: garry@ni6t.com
> Cc: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160
> Message-ID: <1424055210.468050939@f210.i.mail.ru>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Congratulations to everyone who now has a new country on 160m!
>
> Unfortunately for asian HAMs? from CQ- zones nr 19, 23,24 and 25? K1N
> activity on 160m has become one of the most unfortunate.
>
> Zone 25 = only 22 QSOs
> Zone 19 = 1 QSO (there is another QSO, which is held at 04:00UTC, it's either
> operator error expedition, or is someone's bad joke)
> Zones 23 and 24 = 0 QSOs.
> Of the total number of contacts at 160m on 19,23,24,25 zones is less than
> 0.48%.
>
> My friend said that we now have to live another 22 years longer and wait for
> the next expedition to Navassa! Hi-hi-hi -:))
>
>
> 73! de Eugene RA0FF
> http://www.qsl.net/ra0ff/
>
>
> ???????????, 15 ??????? 2015, 16:54 -08:00 ?? Garry Shapiro <garry@ni6t.com>:
> >Milt,
> >
> >One factor influencing the results is that topband has not been a focus
> >for DXpeds for all that long. Time was that 2000 Q's was considered a
> >major achievement and that was not so long ago. Pretty much the same for
> >RTTY. Operating time used to be assigned grudgingly. The numbers have
> >gone up due to audience demand.
> >
> >Garry, NI6T
> >
> >On 2/14/2015 8:45 PM, Milt -- N5IA wrote:
> >> With a bit of time on my hands, and using some information and links
> >> sent to me by persons responding to my post earlier today, I have
> >> compiled the following list of All Time Topband DXpedition leaders for
> >> total 160 Meter Qs.
> >>
> >> The following list of 7 DXpeditions are head and shoulders above the
> >> rest of the pack, so far as I have been able to discover in the records.
> >>
> >> Most other major DXpedtions list total Topband Qs in the 2,500 to
> >> 3,500 range. Very interesting.
> >>
> >> Enjoy, and if anyone has further information, please forward it to me.
> >> Thanks, and have a great, leisurely weekend now that you don't have to
> >> pursue K1N.
> >>
> >> 73 de Milt, N5IA
> >>
> >> ===================================================================================
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> #1
> >>
> >> 5A7A, Libya, near Tripoli, with the entire European continent less
> >> than 4,000 KM distant.
> >>
> >> CW SSB RTTY PSK Total
> >> 160 M 6344 928 283 98 7653
> >> ===================================================================================
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> #2
> >>
> >> K5D, Desecheo, Caribbean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less
> >> than 5,600 KM distant.
> >>
> >> SSB CW RTTY Total
> >> 160 M 1983 5213 0 7196
> >> ===================================================================================
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> #3
> >>
> >> VP6DX, Ducie Atoll, from the middle of the south Pacific in the
> >> southern hemisphere summer.
> >> There was strong QRN and somewhat shorter nights (operating periods on
> >> Topband).
> >>
> >> ZL = 5,400+ KM; VK = 8,000 to 11,700 KM; KH6 = 5,800+ KM; JA =
> >> 11,900+ KM;
> >> west coast of South America = 5,000+ KM; Rio de Janeiro = 8,100 KM;
> >> San Diego, USA = 6,400 KM; NYC, USA = 8,900 KM;
> >> and in EU -- Madrid = 14,200 KM; London = 14,400 KM; Berlin = 15,200
> >> KM;
> >> Rome = 15,690 KM; Moscow = 16,100 KM; Athens = 16,600 KM.
> >>
> >> CW SSB RTTY Total
> >> 160 M 5097 1574 0 6671
> >> ===================================================================================
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> #4
> >>
> >> K1N, Navassa, Carribean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less
> >> than 5,600 KM distant.
> >>
> >> CW SSB RTTY Total
> >> 160 M 5399 0 0 5399 plus what is worked
> >> the last night, 15 Feb 15.
> >> ==================================================================================
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> #5
> >>
> >> T32C, Kiritimati Island, from near the center of the Pacific Ocean,
> >> 200 KM north of the Equator.
> >>
> >> ZL = 5,100+ KM; VK = 6,200 to 10,000 KM; KH6 = 1,900+ KM; JA =
> >> 7,400+ KM;
> >> west coast of South America = 8,500+ KM; Rio de Janeiro = 12,600 KM;
> >> San Diego, USA = 5,400 KM; NYC, USA = 9,300 KM;
> >> and in EU -- Madrid = 14,600 KM; London = 13,700 KM; Berlin = 13,900
> >> KM;
> >> Rome = 15,050 KM; Moscow = 13,460 KM; Athens = 15,580 KM.
> >>
> >> SSB CW PSK RTTY PSK63F Total
> >> 160 M 917 3573 4 449 41 4984
> >> ==================================================================================
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> #6
> >>
> >> HK0NA, Malpelo, off SW coast of Central America, with the entire USA
> >> and most of Canada less
> >> than 7,000 KM distant.
> >>
> >> SSB CW RTTY Total
> >> 160 M 802 4138 0 4940
> >> ==================================================================================
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> #7
> >>
> >> TX5K, Clipperton Island, off SW coast of Mexico, with the entire USA
> >> and most of Canada less
> >> than 6,000 KM distant.
> >>
> >> SSB CW RTTY Total
> >> 160 M 423 3662 0 4085
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >_________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:30:40 -0700
> From: "Milt -- N5IA" <n5ia@zia-connection.com>
> To: "TopBand List" <topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
> Message-ID: <4EEAEB3B51FD4AE8B5F5E14E75F9BA70@MiltVostro2010>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> Good evening all.
>
> The K1N final numbers are in.
>
> I also received some further statistics from Bernd, DF3CB, which slightly
> change the order of the standings.
>
> I received come comments about propagation differences. The following are,
> IMHO, the relevant factors.
>
> DX is DX no matter what band, but in particular on 160 Meters the farther
> you are from the majority of
> the contacts, the more difficult the possibility of large amounts of QSOs.
> Proximity to major ham population areas is the top contributor to the
> leading Q counts.
>
> It does not matter, IMHO, if the DXpedition is 2-man, 25-man, or anywhere in
> between, there is typically only one station and one operator at a time on
> Topband. They do not do both modes simultaneously on Topband. In this
> aspsect all DXpeditions are equal.
>
> Timing with the sunspot cycle is the next limiting factor. The reduction of
> the size and intensity of the polar ovals with low sunspots greatly assists
> the long, opposite side of the planet paths.
>
> Those operations that take place at or near the equator are always affected
> by QRN.
>
> IMHO the operations at 5A7A, K5D, K1N, R1MVW, HK0NA, TS7C,and TX5K did an
> extremely
> good job and were able to take advantage of the proximity to major
> population areas. They
> had to have a good station and great operators, and had to be on the ground
> long enough
> to take make the large amount of Qs.
>
> But, and again IMHO, the operations at VP6DX, T32C, and ZL8X are OUTSTANDING
> because
> they had to overcome the big one; DISTANCE, for nearly 100% of their Qs.
>
> Now to separate those three just a bit.
>
> ZL8X did 4,206 Qs with a crew of 14 operators and 18 days of operation.
>
> T32C did 4,985 Qs with a crew of 41 operators and 32 days of operation.
>
> VP6DX did 6,671 Qs with a crew of 13 operators and 17 days of operation.
>
> In all cases subtract at a minimum two days from the operation total to
> apply to the 160 M operations.
>
> Enjoy, and look for the upcoming web site by Bernd, DF3CB, with all the
> details and
> breakdowns of all the DXpeditions.
>
> 73 de Milt, N5IA
>
> ===================================================================================
>
> #1
>
> 5A7A, Libya, near Tripoli, with the entire European continent less than
> 4,000 KM distant.
>
> CW SSB RTTY PSK Total
> 160 M 6344 928 283 98 7653
> ===================================================================================
>
> #2
>
> K5D, Desecheo, Caribbean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less than
> 5,600 KM distant.
>
> SSB CW RTTY Total
> 160 M 1983 5213 0 7196
> ===================================================================================
>
> #3
>
> VP6DX, Ducie Atoll, from the middle of the south Pacific in the southern
> hemisphere summer. There was strong QRN and somewhat shorter
> nights (operating periods on Topband).
>
> ZL = 5,400+ KM; VK = 8,000 to 11,700 KM; KH6 = 5,800+ KM;
> JA = 11,900+ KM; west coast of South America = 5,000+ KM;
> Rio de Janeiro = 8,100 KM; San Diego, USA = 6,400 KM;
> NYC, USA = 8,900 KM; and in EU -- Madrid = 14,200 KM;
> London = 14,400 KM; Berlin = 15,200 KM; Rome = 15,690 KM;
> Moscow = 16,100 KM; Athens = 16,600 KM.
>
> CW SSB RTTY Total
> 160 M 5097 1574 0 6671
> ===================================================================================
>
> #4
>
> K1N, Navassa, Carribean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less than
> 5,600 KM distant.
>
> CW SSB RTTY Total
> 160 M 5399 0 0 5399
> ==================================================================================
>
> #5
>
> R1MVW/MVC, Malyj Vysotskij, from the north Baltic Sea, where the most
> distant part of
> Europe, Gibraltar, is only 3,600 KM distant.
>
> CW SSB RTTY Total
> 160 M ? ? ? 5082
> =============================================================================
>
> #6
>
> T32C, Kiritimati Island, from near the center of the Pacific Ocean, 200 KM
> north of the Equator.
>
> ZL = 5,100+ KM; VK = 6,200 to 10,000 KM; KH6 = 1,900+ KM; JA = 7,400+ KM;
> west coast of South America = 8,500+ KM; Rio de Janeiro = 12,600 KM;
> San Diego, USA = 5,400 KM; NYC, USA = 9,300 KM;
> and in EU -- Madrid = 14,600 KM; London = 13,700 KM; Berlin = 13,900 KM;
> Rome = 15,050 KM; Moscow = 13,460 KM; Athens = 15,580 KM.
>
> SSB CW PSK RTTY PSK63F Total
> 160 M 917 3573 4 449 41 4984
> ==================================================================================
>
> #7
>
> HK0NA, Malpelo, off SW coast of Central America, with the entire USA and
> most of Canada less than 7,000 KM distant.
>
> SSB CW RTTY Total
> 160 M 802 4138 0 4940
> ==================================================================================
>
> #8
>
> TS7C, Kerkennah Island, off the west coast of Tunisia, with the entire
> European
> continent less than 4,000 KM distant.
>
> SSB CW RTTY Total
> 160 M ? ? ? 4311
> ===============================================================================
>
> #9
>
> ZL8X, Kermandec Islands, 1,000 KM north of New Zealand, north island.
>
> VK = 2,800 to 6,800 KM; KH6 = 5,900 KM; JA = 8,400+ KM;
> west coast of South America = 9,000+ KM; Rio de Janeiro = 12,500 KM;
> San Diego, USA = 9,400 KM; NYC, USA = 13,200 KM;
> and in EU -- Madrid = 18,700 KM; London = 17,500 KM; Berlin = 17,300 KM;
> Rome = 18,300 KM; Moscow = 16,000 KM; Athens = 17,800 KM.
>
> SSB CW RTTY Total
> 160 M 423 3662 0 4206
> ===============================================================================
>
> #10
>
> TX5K, Clipperton Island, off SW coast of Mexico, with the entire USA and
> most of Canada less
> than 6,000 KM distant.
>
> SSB CW RTTY Total
> 160 M 423 3662 0 4085
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 21
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:42:34 -0700
> From: "Milt -- N5IA" <n5ia@zia-connection.com>
> To: "Eugene Popov /RA0FF/" <ra0ff@mail.ru>, <garry@ni6t.com>
> Cc: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160
> Message-ID: <212ABF944BE147699A7AA8553C8D9398@MiltVostro2010>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";
> reply-type=original
>
> Eugene,
>
> I sympathize with you. But location is everything; as we all know.
>
> What you really need is a most rare DX entity in YOUR backyard.
>
> Hmmm!!!!! There is one!!!! P5.
>
> When North Korea comes on the air on 160 M you and your buds will be some of
> the first in the log.
>
> It will be the boys in New England, the southern half of South America and
> the southern half of Africa
> who will be lamenting the low percentage of Qs with their parts of the
> world.
>
> Thanks for the Qs. Always a good signal here from your fine station.
>
> 73 de Milt, N5IA, and also operator of N7GP
> =============================================================
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eugene Popov /RA0FF/
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 7:53 PM
> To: garry@ni6t.com
> Cc: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160
>
> Congratulations to everyone who now has a new country on 160m!
>
> Unfortunately for asian HAMs from CQ- zones nr 19, 23,24 and 25 K1N
> activity on 160m has become one of the most unfortunate.
>
> Zone 25 = only 22 QSOs
> Zone 19 = 1 QSO (there is another QSO, which is held at 04:00UTC, it's
> either operator error expedition, or is someone's bad joke)
> Zones 23 and 24 = 0 QSOs.
> Of the total number of contacts at 160m on 19,23,24,25 zones is less than
> 0.48%.
>
> My friend said that we now have to live another 22 years longer and wait for
> the next expedition to Navassa! Hi-hi-hi -:))
>
>
> 73! de Eugene RA0FF
> http://www.qsl.net/ra0ff/
>
>
>
>
> -----
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 07:40:54 +0000
> From: Rune ?ye <runeegil@hotmail.com>
> To: "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Topband: HC1PF Luis on TB
> Message-ID: <DUB126-W35164DE9DEB96A1B6939C4C42E0@phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi All
>
>
>
> Luis HC1PF is rather active on TB these days, the last two
> mornings his RST was 559 for two three ours then normally peaking 579 / 589 at
> one point. Still not in the log her, however I heard he sent LA7 but I could
> not
> copy my full call and report. I wonder, is there any NA stations that copy
> Luis
> on TB?. He worked many EU stations this morning.
>
>
>
> 73 Rune LA7THA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 04:04:07 -0500
> From: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy@gmail.com>
> To: Rune ?ye <runeegil@hotmail.com>
> Cc: "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: HC1PF Luis on TB
> Message-ID:
> <CANckpc3TjYGoNiXsEXmWSNXKwtadEstPN=JLWvA+s1sdbJXoWw@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi Rune,
>
> Yes, we are copying Luis in the US rather well. He has the usual RX
> problems of listening to the US stations in their winter while he has
> summer and the local QRN. He also has nearby BC stations in the high
> end of the band. Tonight he had a US pileup on him. It was a very
> quiet evening on 160 tonight, and although QSB would drop out the path
> at times, at other times he was 589. Here are his RBN reports for the
> evening, no lack of US spots:
>
> http://www.reversebeacon.net/dxsd1/dxsd1.php?f=0&c=hc1pf&t=dx
>
> He now has an L, up 18.5 m out 34.3 m over an FCP. He's been working
> on RX antennas, but don't know where he is in that task. Don't believe
> his property can support beverages.
>
> >From just listening to who he was working, his path to EU has seemed
> better than path to US, or maybe he was hearing EU better.
>
> 73, Guy K2AV
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Rune ?ye <runeegil@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> >
> >
> > Luis HC1PF is rather active on TB these days, the last two
> > mornings his RST was 559 for two three ours then normally peaking 579 / 589
> > at
> > one point. Still not in the log her, however I heard he sent LA7 but I
> > could not
> > copy my full call and report. I wonder, is there any NA stations that copy
> > Luis
> > on TB?. He worked many EU stations this morning.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73 Rune LA7THA
> > _________________
> > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 05:23:44 -0500
> From: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
> To: <topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna?
> Message-ID: <7326EF59228247CBA4F8AE3436F3713E@MAIN>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> > Rick, I think it had more to do with getting something out of the shack
> > window with the tuner inside. I also think it had more to getting the
> > current maximum at the top of the pole. The OT's used to tell me they
> > just taped a #47 bulb and a small loop of wire at the top and fed some
> > power 20 watts or so at night and then trimmed the far end for maximum
> > brilliance to try and get the current maximum at the top of the slant
> > wire. With some vertical component and horizontal cancellation I can not
> > see how this was a *bad* antenna for beginners on TB.
>
> That was an antenna popular in the early 1960's, I tried one myself back
> then.
>
> It appeared everywhere as an improvement to a vertical or inverted L
> antenna. It was ideally out 65 horizontally, up 65 vertically, and out 130
> horizontally. If the vertical section was lower height, the low horizontal
> was extended.
>
> The idea was to get current at the top of the vertical section, and enough
> length on a horizontal single wire feed to make it a 1/2 wave, but it was a
> bad idea. Mine was way down in signal strength locally on groundwave over a
> base loaded vertical. It improved greatly when turned into an inverted L
> with current maximum at the base.
>
> As Rick says, it acted more like a bent dipole with one end 6 feet off the
> ground for 70 feet or more.
>
> 73 Tom
>
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