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Re: Topband: Blatant cheating using Remote Operation

To: thorvaldur S T E F A N S S O N <otradalur@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Blatant cheating using Remote Operation
From: Cecil <chacuff@cableone.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2019 11:50:04 -0500
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I think the key word is “Station” which assumes that 500M diameter circle 
encompasses all aspects of the station to include feedlines and antennas.

A transmitter and/or receiver are not a station without their associated 
antenna systems.

Cecil
K5DL

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 11:39 AM, thorvaldur S T E F A N S S O N 
> <otradalur@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> May I respectfully point out that DXCC rule 9: b) says:
> 
> *b)* All transmitters and receivers comprising a station used for a
> specific contact must be located within a 500-meter diameter circle.
> 
> Although it is a rather "strange" rule, it only mentions transmitters and
> receivers, it thankfully does not mention antennas at all.
> 
> 73 Thor, TF4M
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:00 PM Greg - ZL3IX <zl3ix@inet.net.nz> wrote:
>> 
>> Guys need to be more discriminatory when discussing remote operation. I
>> use a remote installation, and have for years, but I abide by the DXCC
>> rules which state that the Tx and Rx antennas have to be within 500 m of
>> each other. Furthermore, this installation I designed and built myself,
>> and I maintain myself, with great effort. This practice should NOT be
>> equated with the practice of using a random Rx installation on the Net,
>> probably not even in the same country as the operator using it.
>> 
>> 73, Greg, ZL3IX
>> 
>>> On 2019-10-13 07:34, WW3S wrote:
>>> Good for you Roger....you always hear about hams using remotes to work
>> the dx, but they don’t usually say much when the dx uses a remote to hear
>> them....
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Roger D Johnson <n1rj@roadrunner.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There is no way an organization such as the ARRL can prevent cheating
>> in the DXCC program. It has to depend on the honesty of the hams involved.
>> Yes..some
>>>> people will cheat but I can't see how they can derive any satisfaction
>> from
>>>> that.
>>>> 
>>>> Last year I worked VU2GSM on Top Band. I heard rumors that Kanti used
>> remote
>>>> receiving locations and, when asked, he freely admitted it. He's in my
>> log
>>>> but I didn't claim credit for that contact.
>>>> 
>>>> YMMV!
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Roger N1RJ
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