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Re: [TowerTalk] Stacked 4 El SteppIR's

To: k2hk@arrl.net, kg6i@direcway.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Stacked 4 El SteppIR's
From: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:21:46 -0700
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At 07:28 PM 9/11/2003 +0000, Howard Klein wrote:
Hi John,
Right you are. I am out of town and forgot the exact boom picture. I know I was not very disturbed over the boom specs. I actually got my 2nd 4 el up Sunday but before I had time to tune the pair I had to leave town. I can only say I am extremmely impressed with the top 4 at 75 ft. The lower at 40ft (right now) sounds pretty good also. I need to play with the separation and tune the individual antennas when I get home to see how the stack will work. It's hard to believe that it can only get better. Good <uck to John.
73,
Howard..K2HK

Theoretically (horrible word that, sometimes), you could do some interesting stuff by deliberately tuning one driven element a bit long and the other a bit short. When combined, they'll have a good match, but one's phase will be shifted relative to the other. This would allow you to scan the main lobe in elevation, which might be useful, particularly on a high angle path.


It also might let you put a null at some particularly annoying elevation angle (probably the more useful feature).

Mind you, I have no idea how you'd go about adjusting all the other elements in a practical way. One could have some sort of modeling program with an optimizer, the output of the modeling program used to drive the element actuators. The real problem, as I see it, is that there's often a great difference between model and reality, and, then, between what you think is the optimum pattern, and what actually is.

Getting it to be fast enough to be convenient would also be tricky. Even on a fast computer, optmizing the yagi element lengths takes some amount of time.

Perhaps a better approach would be to precalculate element configurations, and then have another (virtual) knob that sets elevation, along with the rotator knob to set azimuth.

Think of it as a control box for 8 elements instead of just 4.


Jim, W6RMK


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