I used to work for a globally-known manufacturer of military-grade HF and
VHF radios with annual revenues in excess of $100 million. Standard lead
time for first-article deliveries on any order contract was at least 90
days, and sometimes as high as 180 days - mainly due to parts availability
issues.
Dan KB5MY
> This is amateur radio with a limited marketplace. Not Xerox.
>
> What is interesting is that those companies are also providing some of
> the best leading edge products in the hobby.
>
> Yes the world if filled with I have to have it now people. If they want
> to sacrifice performance, quality and other things so they can have
> today so be it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob Maser
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:41 AM
> To: Mike Fatchett W0MU; 'Steve Katz'; 'Kelly Johnson'; 'mrlogs'
> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tashjian Tower Orders
>
> If Steppir, FlexRadio and Elecraft had shorter leadtimes when they
> introduced their products they would have sold more equipment. Having to
> wait for 6 months or more is a turn-off for most. As I recall, Elecraft
> also allowed you to cut in front of others by allowing them to use your
> money while you were waiting.
>
> Most, if not all of these companies are run by engineers and engineers
> have no concept of practices like Just In Time(JIT)manufacturing, line
> flow balancing, queue elimination, and vendor relationships. They also
> never stop designing the product and this causes delays and increases
> costs because of material that has to be scrapped. When I worked at
> Xerox in the 70's they went to a block cut-in mode when making changes.
> Any improvement to the design was shelved until the next cut-in block
> and it took an act of congress to violate this rule. It is usually easy
> to spot a company that is run by engineers. There is unfinished product
> lying all over the place waiting for parts to arrive from vendors. Work
> in Process investment is usually ignored until someone points out that
> costs of manufacturing have gone through the roof.
>
> Excuse my ramblings,
>
> Bob W6TR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Fatchett W0MU" <w0mu@w0mu.com>
> To: "'Steve Katz'" <stevek@jmr.com>; "'Kelly Johnson'"
> <n6kj.kelly@gmail.com>; "'mrlogs'" <mrlogs@verizon.net>
> Cc: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tashjian Tower Orders
>
>
>> Tell that to SteppIR and Elecraft. You will wait months for many of
>> their products as the demand is far greater than their ability at this
>> time to supply.
>>
>> Do you really expect a small firm to have one or two of everything
>> they offer built and ready for shipping at all times?
>>
>> I would rather wait for a superior product than settle for less
>> because it was available.
>>
>> Tashjian should do a better job at communicating a realistic deliver
>> time.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Steve Katz
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:23 AM
>> To: Kelly Johnson; mrlogs
>> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tashjian Tower Orders
>>
>> "Months" is not a reasonable delivery cycle for a product. This
>> obviously implies the product is built one by one, to order, and there
>> is a long queue
>> preceding each.
>>
>> That's unfortunate, because it is a good product but I certainly
>> wouldn't wait "months" for one. When buying anything I always ask not
>> for what I want, but for what the vendor has. "What do you have that
>> you could ship tomorrow?"
>>
>> I guess I'm used to that being in the industry I'm in, where 24 hours
>> lead time is unacceptably long and multimillion dollar contracts are
>> won and lost
>> based on who can ship in 12 hours instead.
>>
>> -WB2WIK/6
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Johnson
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:13 AM
>> To: mrlogs
>> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tashjian Tower Orders
>>
>>
>> You certainly didn't get that from me. As I said, mine came on time
>> and took less than 6 months from the time I first talked to Karl about
>> my tower
>> plans until the time it arrived at my door. Where did you get the 1
>> to 2 year idea?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 4:34 PM, mrlogs <mrlogs@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> OK..So basically..I'll get the tower, etc..Might take a year, year
>>> and a half, 2 years..but I'll get it "eventually".Guess that's OK
>>> then.....I'll just forget about the order for now...and maybe next
>>> Spring, Summer.......who knows?..
>>>
>>> 73'.. Tom N3ZC
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Johnson"
>>> <n6kj.kelly@gmail.com>
>>> To: "mrlogs" <mrlogs@verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 5:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tashjian Tower Orders
>>>
>>>
>>>> I did and I had no issues. I bought a brand new LM-354HD Tashjian
>>>> Tower 2.5 years ago. I live only about 2 hours away from Tashjian,
>>>> so they kindly delivered the base fixture a few weeks early, then
>>>> delivered the tower right on schedule the day of the installation.
>>>> K7LXC made a special trip down to the Bay Area from Washington, so
>>>> any delay from Tashjian would have been a disaster. Fortunately,
>>>> they delivered and I couldn't be happier with the tower. It is
>>>> extremely heavy duty, overkill for my case actually.
>>>>
>>>> I must admit, though, that I started talking to Tashjian about my
>>>> tower plans almost 6 months early, right before getting my permit.
>>>> Tashjian sent the full tower specs and drawings with dry stamps
>>>> about 5 months before my install. I used the documents in my permit
>>>> application which I received in early January. The tower went up in
>>>> April without a hitch.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a happy Tashjian customer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:04 PM, mrlogs <mrlogs@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK..has anyone here actually purchased a new tower from Tashjian
>>>>> Tower (not used from somewhere, etc) and if so..how long did it
>>>>> take to get it?..I see lots of comments..no one saying they bought
>>>>> one new from Tashjian Towers (not TriEx)..The comments I've read
>>>>> here implies it's been an exercise in futility?....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!.. Tom N3ZC
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