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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 74, Issue 13
From: "Mike Bragassa" <bragassa@consolidated.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:33:39 -0600
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OK. I'll be lookin' hard between 12:45~13:10z.
Our SR is moving up maybe 1 minute / day. Now 12:48z
I have seen weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeak  sigs come up to R5 during our SR.

Let's hope.

The Wallis Isl (FW1RE or is it FW5RE?) has been on 160 maybe every 3-4 
mornings. Í got them a few days ago...

Mike
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>   1. [Tower Talk] Ontar Surpl- DAVIS RF Co. Response Connec
>      interchangeability (Steve Davis -Davis RF Co.)
>   2. Re: LDF5 and VXL5 (donovanf@starpower.net)
>   3. Re: LDF5 and VXL5 (Sain'T Tom)
>   4. Re: [Tower Talk] Ontar Surpl- DAVIS RF Co. Response
>      Connecinterchangeability (Sain'T Tom)
>   5. Re: Ontario Surplus (jim Jarvis)
>   6. 90 Degree Adapters (UG 645/U) (Scott McClements)
>   7. Re: 90 Degree Adapters (UG 645/U) (Cqtestk4xs@aol.com)
>   8. Re: 90 Degree Adapters (UG 645/U) (Jim Walker)
>   9. Re: 90 Degree Adapters (UG 645/U) (Mark Robinson)
>  10. Off-Brand Connectors and Adapters (Jim Brown)
>  11. Re: Ontario Surplus (Jim Chaggaris)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:14:00 -0500
> From: "Steve Davis -Davis RF Co." <sdavis@davisrf.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] [Tower Talk] Ontar Surpl- DAVIS RF Co. Response
> Connec interchangeability
> To: <dxhawg@windstream.net>, "Tower Talk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <5D5101D7523F4E1AACB1792F74CDE6F7@DD6JJ021>
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> Hi Tom,
>
> LDF5 and VXL5  connectors are not interchangeable due to the cables' 
> construction differences.
>  If you want a good price for Andrew connectors, just contact me direct 
> and let me know which cable, type connecotr (N) qty needed and gender .
>
> 73,   Steve ,  K1PEK,
>
> DAVIS RF Co.,  Div. of Orion Wire Co., Inc.
>
> Wire, Cable, RF Connectors and wire aerial parts.   LMR, Heliax, Eupen
>
> Commercial / Military / & Custom Cable Design
>
> tel:  978-369-1738     Fax:  978-369-3484
> www.DavisRF.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu,  5 Feb 2009 12:39:13 -0500 (EST)
> From: <donovanf@starpower.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] LDF5 and VXL5
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Cc: Sain'T Tom <dxhawg@windstream.net>
> Message-ID: <20090205123913.BYP03729@ms10.lnh.mail.rcn.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Tom,
>
> No, the connectors are not interchangeable.
>
> Andrew L5 connectors use a self-tapping inner contact, while V5 connectors 
> use a captive inner contact.
>
> The VXL5 jacket diameter is slightly smaller (27.5 vs 28 mm), while the 
> VXL5 inner conductor diameter is slightly larger (9.42 vs 9.0 mm).
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Sain'T Tom" <dxhawg@windstream.net>
>>To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:42 AM
>>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ontario Surplus
>>
>>
>>> Are the connectors for LDF5 and VXL5 interchangable on either cable?
>>>
>>> Thank you / 73
>>> Tom K4RV
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:48:46 -0500
> From: "Sain'T Tom" <dxhawg@windstream.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] LDF5 and VXL5
> To: <donovanf@starpower.net>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <5E2D96C7B0054E9D882C0D553DEA1DBB@Omax>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Frank, W3LPL,
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Sincerely/73
> tom K4RV
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <donovanf@starpower.net>
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Cc: "Sain'T Tom" <dxhawg@windstream.net>
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] LDF5 and VXL5
>
>
>> Tom,
>>
>> No, the connectors are not interchangeable.
>>
>> Andrew L5 connectors use a self-tapping inner contact, while V5 
>> connectors
>> use a captive inner contact.
>>
>> The VXL5 jacket diameter is slightly smaller (27.5 vs 28 mm), while the
>> VXL5 inner conductor diameter is slightly larger (9.42 vs 9.0 mm).
>>
>> 73
>> Frank
>> W3LPL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Sain'T Tom" <dxhawg@windstream.net>
>>>To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:42 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ontario Surplus
>>>
>>>
>>>> Are the connectors for LDF5 and VXL5 interchangable on either cable?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you / 73
>>>> Tom K4RV
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:49:48 -0500
> From: "Sain'T Tom" <dxhawg@windstream.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [Tower Talk] Ontar Surpl- DAVIS RF Co.
> Response Connecinterchangeability
> To: "Steve Davis -Davis RF Co." <sdavis@davisrf.com>, "Tower Talk"
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <A0FCAE07B8F34301AEBF74FE9EA9D454@Omax>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Steve ,  K1PEK,
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Sincerely/73
> Tom K4RV
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Davis -Davis RF Co." <sdavis@davisrf.com>
> To: <dxhawg@windstream.net>; "Tower Talk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 12:14 PM
> Subject: [TowerTalk] [Tower Talk] Ontar Surpl- DAVIS RF Co. Response
> Connecinterchangeability
>
>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> LDF5 and VXL5  connectors are not interchangeable due to the cables'
>> construction differences.
>>  If you want a good price for Andrew connectors, just contact me direct
>> and let me know which cable, type connecotr (N) qty needed and gender .
>>
>> 73,   Steve ,  K1PEK,
>>
>> DAVIS RF Co.,  Div. of Orion Wire Co., Inc.
>>
>> Wire, Cable, RF Connectors and wire aerial parts.   LMR, Heliax, Eupen
>>
>> Commercial / Military / & Custom Cable Design
>>
>> tel:  978-369-1738     Fax:  978-369-3484
>> www.DavisRF.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> TowerTalk mailing list
>> TowerTalk@contesting.com
>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:37:25 -0500
> From: jim Jarvis <jimjarvis@optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ontario Surplus
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <82CC81AF-B010-4803-A98C-9564BB4E0DBD@optonline.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
>
> Pete,
>
> Haven't spoken with Ben or his wife since last year, June, so I don't
> know
> contemporary information.
>
> However,  Ben has a day job, which requires travel.    His wife was
> answering
> the phone, when he was away.    Sometimes there were breaks in
> communications.
>
> I'd recommend email, since he'll get it when travelling.
> ben@ontariosurplus.com
>
> N2EA
> -0-
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:45:52 -0600
> From: "Travis W. Pederson" <n5tp@verizon.net>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Ontario Surplus
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <010f01c9871a$555d5810$6401a8c0@travisb71dfd92>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Does anyone know if Ontario Surplus is still in business?  Phone
> calls end
> up at their answering machine with no return calls back from them.  I
> have a
> friend who is possibly interested in purchasing some AB-577's from
> them.  Or
> does anyone know of another source?
>
> Thanks de Pete, N5TP
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:54:03 -0500
> From: Scott McClements <kc2pih@gmail.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] 90 Degree Adapters (UG 645/U)
> To: towertalk reflector <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
> <dc722d260902051254x3ec65155le01d3a3a949f98df@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi - I just put a new amp into service in the shack and I bought some
> Amphenol 90 degree adapters because I need to have the equipment
> closer to wall. I read bad things about using these when cheap imports
> were used (as in a spring was used inside to make the 90 bend).
>
> Do quality 90 degree adapters have any additional loss or power limit
> compared to just using SO-259/PL-259s?
>
> -Scott, WU2X
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:56:26 EST
> From: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 90 Degree Adapters (UG 645/U)
> To: kc2pih@gmail.com, TOWERTALK@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <cdd.46f75579.36bcac7a@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Scott
>
> Along time ago someone wrote an article in NCJ.  They put about 20 of
> various types of 90 degree elbows, barrel connectors etc in series. 
> Result:
> around .1 dB loss.  No big deal.
>
> Bill KH7XS/K4XS
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:11:29 -0600
> From: "Jim Walker" <jim@walkersdomain.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 90 Degree Adapters (UG 645/U)
> To: "'towertalk reflector'" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <2B4C1344421F4F50A3B2AE27999B6E14@videopc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> My experience is not all 90 degree adapters are created equal.
>
> Don't even mess with the cheap ones.  Go with the Amphenol ones or better.
> Especially if your are running power like you have said.
>
> I had several 90 adapters inline a few years ago and began to observe
> intermittent movement of the SWR, etc.  In time, I determined the cause to
> be in one or more of the 90 adapters.  So I removed all of them.  I had to
> move equipment around as well.  The problems disappeared.
>
> Later I purchased some expensive ones at a hamfest.  They were much 
> heavier
> and looked heftier.  I have two in line now.  I haven't had any issues 
> with
> them for a year or so.
>
> Others may have had success using the less expensive brands.  Maybe they
> weren't QRO operators.
>
> Jim
> KB?X
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Scott McClements
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:54 PM
> To: towertalk reflector
> Subject: [TowerTalk] 90 Degree Adapters (UG 645/U)
>
> Hi - I just put a new amp into service in the shack and I bought some
> Amphenol 90 degree adapters because I need to have the equipment closer to
> wall. I read bad things about using these when cheap imports were used (as
> in a spring was used inside to make the 90 bend).
>
> Do quality 90 degree adapters have any additional loss or power limit
> compared to just using SO-259/PL-259s?
>
> -Scott, WU2X
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:20:27 -0600
> From: "Mark Robinson" <markrob@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 90 Degree Adapters (UG 645/U)
> To: <jim@walkersdomain.com>, "'towertalk reflector'"
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <004d01c987f0$b717c960$6600a8c0@hplaptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> I have had some Amphenol ones in line for years and have had no issues 
> with
> them.
>
>
> Mark N1UK
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Walker" <jim@walkersdomain.com>
> To: "'towertalk reflector'" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 05 February, 2009 6:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 90 Degree Adapters (UG 645/U)
>
>
> My experience is not all 90 degree adapters are created equal.
>
> Don't even mess with the cheap ones.  Go with the Amphenol ones or better.
> Especially if your are running power like you have said.
>
> I had several 90 adapters inline a few years ago and began to observe
> intermittent movement of the SWR, etc.  In time, I determined the cause to
> be in one or more of the 90 adapters.  So I removed all of them.  I had to
> move equipment around as well.  The problems disappeared.
>
> Later I purchased some expensive ones at a hamfest.  They were much 
> heavier
> and looked heftier.  I have two in line now.  I haven't had any issues 
> with
> them for a year or so.
>
> Others may have had success using the less expensive brands.  Maybe they
> weren't QRO operators.
>
> Jim
> KB?X
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Scott McClements
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:54 PM
> To: towertalk reflector
> Subject: [TowerTalk] 90 Degree Adapters (UG 645/U)
>
> Hi - I just put a new amp into service in the shack and I bought some
> Amphenol 90 degree adapters because I need to have the equipment closer to
> wall. I read bad things about using these when cheap imports were used (as
> in a spring was used inside to make the 90 bend).
>
> Do quality 90 degree adapters have any additional loss or power limit
> compared to just using SO-259/PL-259s?
>
> -Scott, WU2X
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:38:57 -0800
> From: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Off-Brand Connectors and Adapters
> To: "towertalk reflector" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <20090206003858.DEAC658C9B@gw1.nlenet.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:11:29 -0600, Jim Walker wrote:
>
>>Others may have had success using the less expensive brands.
>
> Off-brand adapters of all sorts -- elbows, tees, barrels, N to UHF,
> and so on, have caused me LOTS of grief, and they have sometimes
> cost me lots of MONEY. Off brand connectors are also a huge problem.
> Many of them use dielectric material that melts and deforms, even
> with a good temperature controlled iron. Some of them, especially
> cheap DIN connectors use contact material that won't accept solder.
>
> When you buy cheap connectors and adapters you are buying TROUBLE!
> They aren't even real connectors -- they are imitations. Buy the
> real thing. Even if the real thing costs 5X the price, it's often
> worth 100X the price.
>
> I am disgusted by ham vendors (including RF Connection) who sell
> imitation DIN connectors that I can't solder to!  Real DIN
> connectors (Switchcraft, Preh) cost $5-$10.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim Brown K9YC
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:40:53 -0600
> From: "Jim Chaggaris" <jimc@pwrone.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ontario Surplus
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <EB3460CB358E46E3A612D69D7327AF0B@JimLaptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>
> Jim,
>
> I replied to Travis off the list but can confirm that emailing Ben is the
> best way to get a hold of him.  I just received an excellent condition
> AB-577 plus 2 extra 5' mast sections and I'm impressed with the product 
> and
> Ben's response to my questions.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim N9WW
>
> James Chaggaris
> President
> PowerOne Corp./PowerOne Environmental Corp.
> 1020 Cedar Avenue
> Suite 203
> St. Charles, IL 60174
> Phn: 630-443-6500
> Fax: 630-443-6505
> Cell: 630-669-2241
> www.pwrone.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of jim Jarvis
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 12:37 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ontario Surplus
>
>
> Pete,
>
> Haven't spoken with Ben or his wife since last year, June, so I don't
> know
> contemporary information.
>
> However,  Ben has a day job, which requires travel.    His wife was
> answering
> the phone, when he was away.    Sometimes there were breaks in
> communications.
>
> I'd recommend email, since he'll get it when travelling.
> ben@ontariosurplus.com
>
> N2EA
> -0-
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:45:52 -0600
> From: "Travis W. Pederson" <n5tp@verizon.net>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Ontario Surplus
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <010f01c9871a$555d5810$6401a8c0@travisb71dfd92>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Does anyone know if Ontario Surplus is still in business?  Phone
> calls end
> up at their answering machine with no return calls back from them.  I
> have a
> friend who is possibly interested in purchasing some AB-577's from
> them.  Or
> does anyone know of another source?
>
> Thanks de Pete, N5TP
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> TowerTalk mailing list
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>
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>
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