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For more on pseudo-science, read Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World -
Science as a Candle in the Dark."
73 e
Gene Smar AD3F
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Gilbert" <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Radiation Hazard !
>
> Technical arguments aren't likely to have much influence on people who
> believe in ghosts (as roughly 30% of the U.S. population reputedly does)
> or who buy things like iRenew bracelets (check your local spam folder)
> and magnetic mattresses (*http://tinyurl.com/3z62byt) *at great
> expense. The older I get the less I realize I know, but the more
> cynical I become about the objectivity and reasoning power of the human
> race.
>
> Good luck, though.
>
> 73,
> Dave AB7E
>
>
>
> On 5/19/2011 2:09 AM, Jim Thomson wrote:
>> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 20:02:35 +0200
>> From: F5vjc<foxfive.vjc@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Radiation Hazard !
>> To: TowerTalk@contesting.com
>> Message-ID:<BANLkTin-_c6V48bwRKxdkUK7EAVX9=KTvg@mail.gmail.com>
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>> Does anyone know of an online article or other easily read material
>> suitable for the lay person (Joe public) who is completely against all
>> visible antennas or masts used for radio transmission on the grounds
>> of harmful electromagnetic radiation?
>>
>> Naturally it should present Amateur Radio in a fair and favourable light.
>>
>> 73, Deni
>> F5VJC
>>
>> ## I use that online software program from, I think it's the University
>> of
>> Wisconsin. Just plug in the height, gain of ant, freq, AVERAGE power
>> level, duty
>> cycle etc, and it spits out asap, if you are compliant or not.
>>
>> ## So what's the deal? Visible ant's are a ...'no-no' but hidden
>> ant's are ..."ok" .
>> There have been umpteen thousands of studies done to date..and not one
>> of them
>> proves ill effects if you are compliant. I have been to several town
>> hall meetings...and
>> you should see the crap the public buys into. It's all pseudo junk
>> science at best.
>> The only way you are going to get cancer is from gamma rays, x-rays, or
>> solar radiation from
>> the sun. You can stick a rat into a microwave oven and turn it on
>> full blast for 20 mins..and the
>> rat will die.....but it didn't die from cancer. Women are at these town
>> hall meeting's, in tears, and all
>> 300 x folks in the room get emotional, and wind each other up.
>>
>> ## I find it amusing that the public is all up in arms about.."death
>> rays" from ants..... and cell
>> tower's yet have no problems taking with their cell phones..held right
>> up to their ear !
>>
>> ## just do a google on evils of radio tower's and ant's..and you will
>> get an earful. I just saw one
>> the other day that stated .... "ham radio ants cause cancer"
>>
>> ## most fed gov's don't even read the comments from city hall and it's
>> citizens anymore..they all
>> end up in the shredder. Our regulator just wan't to know if the
>> proposed TX radio and ant's is
>> compliant or not. No cell co is about to the make a proposal that's not
>> compliant so it's a moot point.
>>
>> ## I have been accused of everything from .."pumping out death rays,
>> gamma ray's, you name it".
>> Property values will diminish, I will also attract lightning, folks will
>> get internet drop off's, the sky will
>> fall in, and life will end as we know it. I'm amazed at how folks with
>> university education can buy into this
>> nonsense. I live very close to the local university with 10,000
>> students and staff..with profs up and down
>> my street. They believe anything and everything they read on the
>> internet....it's a real hoot.
>>
>> ## we even have a local group here in town... " citizens coalition
>> against electromagnetic RADIATION"
>> Now the fellow who runs this outfit is a real piece of work..a complete
>> idiot. But he seems to get himself into
>> the local newspaper once in a while....which just adds to
>> his....'credibility'. He has this small loop ant he built...which
>> he then plugs into his Fluke DVM..and goes around measuring ..'level of
>> radiation' from various cell sites..and telco
>> sites. We had a point to point microwave shot from the local telco
>> office to the local horse race track, just north of me.
>> It was used in the summer only, so folks could place live bets on
>> horse's from other tacks 75 miles away. It was just
>> a big, real time, video and gaming feed. The local nutcase gets his ix
>> on page 1 of the paper... outside the fence at work...
>> "measuring" the levels of the .."death rays" from our tiny 12" diam
>> microwave dish..which has the sides built up to
>> eliminate side lobes, etc. The thing only runs a fraction of a watt..and
>> is about as narrow as a search light..and halfway
>> up the tower. It's SHUT OFF 9 x month's of the year. I pointed
>> out to the local bozo, that the point to point circuit was in the
>> 'OFF' mode for the winter...so asked him exactly what he thought he was
>> measuring. Too late, he had already made front page
>> news with his ..."findings" . Of course, the public reads this junk
>> science..and swallows all of it.
>>
>> ### BTW.. booze is good for you now.....it contains no trans-fats.
>>
>> Later... Jim VE7RF
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