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Re: [TowerTalk] Screw Anchor Experience

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Screw Anchor Experience
From: john@kk9a.com
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:20:48 -0400
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Were your guy anchors grounded with a copper ground rod?


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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Screw Anchor Experience
From:    "K0DAN" <k0dan@comcast.net>
Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:43:21 -0500

Hans...

In my experience this is not true. I have some photos of my failed
galvanized screw anchor which I can send you. The failure was a good 3+
feet below the ground surface, however I expect the metal rod was probably
compromised along its entire length.

The property I am on was once a working farm. I occasionally find gears
and other metal parts from farm implements I believe to date from the
1920's-1930's. This iron or steel parts are very solid and heavily rusted,
and the rust protects it from deeper corrosion (think: ocean
liner)...galvanized anchors, on the other hand, are not the same compound.
(Metallurgists please chime in). I suspect that the steel underneath the
galvanizing may be a very soft/cheap material (keep the costs down no
matter what), and once the galvanizing is compromised it does not take
long (15 years in my case) for the actual metal to be totally compromised.

What you describe for poles, fence posts, etc., is true, but I suspect we
are comparing apples and oranges. And again, we should not assume that all
soils are created the same. What I have here in west central Missouri is
probably much different than soils and ground water in other parts of the
country.

As always YMMV.

73

Dan
K0DAN

-----Original Message----- From: Hans Hammarquist
Sent: June 20, 2013 11:38
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Screw Anchor Experience

What I have seen, it is only the portion closest to the surface that
corrodes. I have found iron pieces buried for hundred of years with only
slight corrosion. Scrap iron, stored laying on the ground, has almost
disappeared in no time. I believe it is a combination of water, "dirt",
and air that is causing this.


When installing fence with steel poles, a concrete "plate" is made around
the pole just at the surface. It is sloped on the top to allow water
run-off. If you don't do that the pole will corrode at the surface and
eventually break there.


The rebar in concrete is "protected" by the concrete but will corrode if
too close to the surface. In the same way the fence pole is "protected" by
the concrete plate.


Maybe some concrete poured around anchor can extend the life-expectancy of
the anchor.


Next: What method or how would you inspect an anchor for corrosion
damages? Just digging around it?


Hans - N2JFS

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