Oh geez, I though we were talking about raising the tower from nested to full
extension, sorry about that!
Chris
On Feb 18, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
> Chris -
>
> I'm asking only about tilting the tower from horizontal to vertical and back.
> Extending it is already handled.
>
> To arrive at the 2 ton figure, I used a formula one of the guys on here
> supplied. The load is heaviest when the tower is horizontal, and lessens as
> the tower goes toward vertical.
>
> load in lbs = weight of tower * length of tower/10 ft * cos(angle of tower
> with respect to ground) / sin(angle of cable with respect to tower)
>
> tower wt. =1200 lbs.
> length 35'
> angle of tower = 0
> angle of cable 45
>
> There is approx. 15' of cable between the post and the tower * 4 runs = 60' +
> approx 10' from the pulley on the post to the winch. I estimate∂ roughly
> 11-12' of that not wound on the winch.
>
> Let me know what the club says.
> Mike
>
> On Feb 18, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Chris <EZRhino@fastmovers.biz> wrote:
>
>> Hey Mike,
>>
>> Two of my buddies use this on a TX-455, and the cable goes over the pulley
>> at the top of the biggest tower section, then down around a pulley on the
>> bottom of the second tower section (which they added), and then back up to a
>> fixed point at the top of the biggest section again, giving a 2:1 ratio. It
>> lifts the tower to full height in less than 60 seconds. One of my friends
>> first routed the cable directly without the 2:1 advantage but he felt like
>> it was too fast. The motor handled it fine. I don't know how my other
>> buddy with the HG70 routed his cable, or maybe I forgot. I'll ask at the
>> meeting this week. Remember that adding more cable to the winch is kind of
>> irrelevant because most of it is being routed up and down through pulleys,
>> not all around the drum. I don't know where you get 4k lbs., that's 3x the
>> weight of my entire tower (LM470).
>>
>> Chris
>> KF7P
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Chris -
>>>
>>> I have seen that winch touted, as well as it's big brother.
>>>
>>> The lifting force when the tower is horizontal is a tad north of 4000 lbs.
>>> Using a 4 sheet block cuts it to about 1000 lbs. That requires about 70
>>> feet of cable. The winch comes with 39 ft. and the only thing Northern will
>>> say about it is that adding cable voids the warranty. I'm not all that
>>> concerned with the warranty, but I'd need to know the top capacity of the
>>> drum. I'd prefer to use 1/4" cable further taxing the drum capacity.
>>>
>>> How have the locals come to grips with those issues?
>>>
>>> 73, Mike NF4L
>>>
>>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, EZ Rhino <EZRhino@fastmovers.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The locals in these parts have used this hoist with good success:
>>>> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200328855_200328855
>>>>
>>>> Of course you need a platform of some sort to mount it on.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> KF7P
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 14:31 , Larry Loen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Me three.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Larry WO7R
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Bob Farkaly <bob@farkaly.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No experience, but looking for a solution with my HG70-HD as well.
>>>>> Interested in replies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob. K9RHY
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> Reublin NF4L
>>>>> Sent: 17 February, 2014 2:40 PM
>>>>> To: towertalk reflector
>>>>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Drill motor
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone had experience or have an opinion about turning a Fulton KW
>>>>> series winch with a Ridgid R7122 to tilt up/down my HG70HD?
>>>>>
>>>>> The specs and warranty look real good.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Mike NF4L
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