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Re: [TowerTalk] multiple antennas on same tower

To: "'Stan Stockton'" <wa5rtg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] multiple antennas on same tower
From: "Jorge Diez - CX6VM" <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:12:12 -0200
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Hi Stan

 

Or maybe a better idea is to have two 200 ft tower, one for Europe and other 
for USA each one with 3 x 10 mts + 3 x 15 mts + 3 x 20 mts beam at the 
appropriate height?

 

73,

Jorge

 

 

De: Stan Stockton [mailto:wa5rtg@gmail.com] 
Enviado el: lunes, 24 de febrero de 2014 10:00 p.m.
Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM; TowerTalk@contesting.com
Asunto: Re: [TowerTalk] multiple antennas on same tower

 

Jorge,

 

I took a six element 15 design I had and put three of them with 50 foot spacing 
in EZNEC Pro.

 

In free space the SWR was as follows, driving all three:

 

21.000. 1.035

21.225. 1.028

21.450. 1.290

 

The free space gain at 21.200 was 15.65 dBi and front to back 39.02 dB.

 

Then I put three more down six feet from the first three and turned them 75 
degrees and just drove the original stack of three.

 

The SWR was:

 

21.000 1.45

21.225. 1.49

21.450. 1.95

 

The free space gain at 21.200 was 14.15 dBi and the front to back with a skewed 
pattern was 19.95 dB.

 

Different antennas may react differently - better or worse and obviously there 
could be something done to improve the detrimental interaction.  You will 
definitely see a difference when you go from EU to USA but you will be putting 
up a lot of antennas to have the overall performance degraded by enough that I 
would not do it.

 

73...Stan, K5GO


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On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com> wrote:

Big problems with that, Jorge.  Even if 90 degrees off and I think you won't be 
positioning them that far off (more like 70 degrees or so?) with only 6 feet of 
separation (your example used two feet but even with 6 feet) your SWR will 
likely be higher than you want to see, you will lose gain and the patterns will 
be disturbed. 

 

Stan, K5GO

 

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hello



Thinking on fixed antennas to avoid rotor problems, I have a question/doubt.



if I have a stack of 3 antennas (15 mts monobanders) on the same tower, how
worst will be to add a second stack of 3 antennas on the same tower at 6 ft
of separation each one?



For example, a stack fixed to Europe at 50/100/150 ft. Then I add a stack
fixed to USA at 48/98/148



This is possible or will damage the performance?



Will use any combination, each stack at a given time for quick switch
between Europe and USA and also will want to use both stacks at the same
time



Thanks,

Jorge

CX6VM/CW5W

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