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Re: [TowerTalk] Worm gear winch

To: K8RI on TT <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Worm gear winch
From: Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 15:00:23 -0400
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I bought a Fulton KW3000, and I think it's a true worm gear drive. It has a 
51:1 ratio. I plan to use it to raise my fold over tower. I'm powering it with 
a wheelchair motor.

In one of the views here 
http://www.etrailer.com/Winches/Fulton/FKW30000103.html you can see the gears.

73, Mike NF4L

On Apr 4, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Roger (K8RI) on TT <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net> wrote:

> On 4/4/2014 12:26 PM, ftravanty wrote:
>> The only type of hand winch I would trust is one like a Fulton 1500 or 2500 
>> that has a self actuating brake, and is in good working condition. A winch 
>> with a re moveable handle which is part of the self actuating brake, or one 
>> that can free wheel, being held by muscle power, can be very dangerous for 
>> tower work.
> 
> I like the latch on mine and other than a lapse in judgement feel it's quite 
> safe.  Going up or down, the latch only lets you go in one direction and if 
> you let go, it can't freewheel.  Noisy, but adds little friction to the work.
> 
> I'd like to get a worm gear drive and convert it to a real worm gear, worm 
> gear wheel type drive. They take very little effort on the crank, but the 
> gear ratio is such that it can't freewheel when the driving force is applied 
> from the output end. I think it'd be worth the extra money.
> 
> A single flute worm with a 20 tooth worm gear wheel would have a 20:1 ratio, 
> while a 2 flute worm would have a 10:1 ratio with the same size worm gear 
> wheel. The conversion is fairly simple as you only need a worm gear wheel of 
> the right diameter and pitch which should be the same # of teeth you have in 
> the original setup.  They do need a fairly rigid mount.  (no play in the 
> gears and they should be fully meshed).
> 
> If you really want to know if it will be self locking it  "depends on the 
> lead angle, the pressure angle, and the coefficient of friction; however, it 
> is approximately correct to say that a worm and gear will be self-locking if 
> the tangent of the lead angle is less than the coefficient of friction." 
> (Wikipedia) <:-))
> 
> 73
> 
> Roger (K8RI)
> 
> 
> 
>> Frank W9JCC
>> 
>> On 4/4/2014 11:00 AM, towertalk-request@contesting.com wrote:
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