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Re: [TowerTalk] Sad day - W9ZUC tower accident

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Sad day - W9ZUC tower accident
From: n4zkf <towertalk@n4zkf.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:59:29 -0400
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Yes they do Bill. Just depends on where you have them terminated. We all
free climbed back then (us idiots) 25 years ago. Not now! My guys are
fired on the spot if I catch them.

73 Dave n4zkf






On 9/18/14 12:18 PM, "Bill via TowerTalk" <towertalk@contesting.com> wrote:

>Those devices are handy....except they do not work on rotating  towers.
> 
>I used to free climb back in the old days and hook on at the  top....not
>any more.  I use gorilla hooks on the way up and down and hook  up with
>the 
>lanyard when settling in to work.
> 
>Old saying...There are old tower climbers and there are bold tower
>climbers, but there are no old, bold tower climbers.  Belt up  guys!
> 
>Bill K4XS/KH7XS
> 
> 
>In a message dated 9/18/2014 4:14:17 P.M. Coordinated Universal Time,
>EZRhino@fastmovers.biz writes:
>
>The  slickest thing I've ever seen is a cable stretched tight from top to
>bottom of  the tower, and the climber has a device that goes on the cable
>that only  slides UP the cable.  It can't slide down, so if you fell it
>would 
>hold  fast.  This also gives both hands free for climbing.  I've never
>seen 
>these on a ham tower though.  Lots of them in my neck of the woods  on
>ski 
>lift towers.
>
>Chris
>KF7P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sep 18,  2014, at 10:03 AM, TexasRF--- via TowerTalk wrote:
>
>> Please  enlighten me: when climbing with a gorilla hook, is there only
>one   
>> hook/lanyard used or are there two hook/lanyards used?
>>  
>> If two, wouldn't there always be one of the hooks attached to  the
>>tower?
>> 
>> 73,
>> Gerald K5GW
>> 
>>  
>> In a message dated 9/18/2014 8:49:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight  Time,
>> xdavid@cis-broadband.com writes:
>> 
>>  
>> Yes,  you have indeed said that several times here before, and  it was
>> just as  ignorant a comment then as it is now.   Every time you unhook
>>or 
>> hook  to the tower you only have one  hand on the tower ... just
>>exactly 
>> as you  only have one hand on  the tower when you reach up while
>>climbing 
>> ... the  difference  being whether or not you are hooked in while that
>> second hand   isn't on the tower.  How you can possibly believe that
>>one 
>> hand  on  the tower is safer than one hand on the tower PLUS one hook
>>on  
>> the tower,  or that a free hand not on the tower is more  reliable than
>>a 
>> hook already  on the tower, is totally beyond  me.
>> 
>> Dave    AB7E
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  On 9/17/2014 8:42 PM, Doug Renwick wrote:
>>> I have  said this  many times before.  If you can't 'free climb' then
>>>you
>>> SHOULD  NOT be climbing at all.  The use of a gorilla hook has it's
>place  
>> -
>>> for resting or at the work station.  But IMO it  should not be  used
>>>to 
>> assist
>>> the climb!  Every  time you have to hook and unhook  the gorilla hook
>>>it 
>>  means
>>> you only have one hand left on the  tower.  That  to me is unsafe.
>>>With 
>> free
>>> climbing, both   hands are available to grab the tower.  If you can't
>free
>>>  climb -  don't climb.
>>> Doug
>>> 
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