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Re: [TowerTalk] My first tower section is not plumb...

To: <towertalk@contesting.com>, Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] My first tower section is not plumb...
From: "J. Hunt via TowerTalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: "J. Hunt" <ki5dq@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 01:54:57 +0000 (UTC)
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I agree with Patrick, it is far more important to keep the tower sections 
"in-line" with one another. 
This will keep equal stresses on all tower section faces.

Attempting to correct a warped tower, with un-equel guy cable tensions can 
cause catastrophic failure.

Is their any possible way you can correct the tower foundation, by digging out 
the appropriate side of the concrete block?
This procedure itself will reduce the overall soil integrity about the tower 
base.

Do you have a "level" other than a "plumb-bob" to check the tower vertical 
properties in at least two different planes?

Two weekends ago, I started tower #2 on my property.  
The concrete base is 3' x 3' x 4', belled out at the bottom, 3" of pea-gravel 
in hole base, back-filled with 35 @ 80 pound concrete bags and 30' of re-bar.  
A 30 - 45 day concrete curing period is in progress.
If anyone wants a few photos of this, please reply to me directly, off the 
TowerTalk reflector.

Much Thanks n 73,
James
ki5dq 
   a veteran tower dog

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On Wed, 2/10/16, Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] My first tower section is not plumb...
 To: towertalk@contesting.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2016, 2:58 PM
 
 With small  versatility errors, straightness is more important than  vertical 
perfection.
 
 Keeping the tower "in-column" is more important than a little lean.
 
 Patrick        NJ5G
 
 On 2/10/2016 2:24 PM, Stan Stockton wrote:
 > Doug,
 >
 > In my opinion you should not lose an sleep over this project.  If you were 
 > able to suspend yourself in mid air, you could probably put a slight amount 
 > of pressure with one hand (perhaps two fingers) and make it plumb.  If it 
 > will make you feel better leave that plumb bob on it and when you tension 
 > the guy wires make sure it's perfect.
 >
 > I have 13 towers up right now and have never in my life used a plumb bob on 
 > a tower.  They look pretty straight up and down to
 me :-)
 >
 > 73...Stan, K5GO
 >
 >> On Feb 10, 2016, at 12:58 PM, Douglas Ruz (CO8DM) <co8dm@frcuba.co.cu> 
 >> wrote:
 >>
 >> OK,
 >>
 >> I am using a plumb bob...First test attaching a plumb bob at 20 ft level 
 >> (top of 2nd tower section)...I see about 5/8 inch
 of deviation from Sight A and 1 1/2 inch deviation from Sight B
 >>
 >> 73....Douglas, CO8DM
 >>
 >> "No creo que haya alguna emoción más intensa para un inventor que ver 
 >> alguna de sus creaciones funcionando. Esa emoción hace que uno se olvide de 
 >> comer, de dormir, de todo." - Nikola Tesla >> ----- Original Message ----- 
 >> From:
 "Ron Young" <youngron@verizon.net>
 >> To: "Douglas Ruz (CO8DM)" <co8dm@frcuba.co.cu>
 >> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:01 PM
 >> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] My first tower section is not plumb...
 >>
 >>
 >> Drop a string with weight (plumb bob) from leg at 20 ft point. How far is 
 >> string from leg at concrete base? Do it with no wind.
 >> W8RJL
 >>
 >> Sent from my iPhone
 >>
 >>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Douglas Ruz (CO8DM) <co8dm@frcuba.co.cu> 
 >>> wrote:
 >>>
 >>> Hi,
 >>>
 >>> I have a problem...i discovered my first tower section is not 
 >>> plumb...something happen after concrete cures. Remember i
 have 3 ft buried in concrete and 7 ft above concrete (1st section).
 >>>
 >>> I add the 2nd section and i am planning install the 3rd section with the 
 >>> permanent guy wires.
 >>>
 >>> What to do to correct the plumbing ??
 >>>
 >>> Thoughts?
 >>>
 >>> 73....Douglas, CO8DM
 >>>
 >>> "No creo que haya alguna emoción más intensa para un inventor que ver 
 >>> alguna de sus creaciones funcionando. Esa
 emoción hace que uno se olvide de comer, de dormir, de todo." - Nikola Tesla
 >>>
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 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
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