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Re: [TowerTalk] F12 C19XR Rivets

To: TexasRF@aol.com, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] F12 C19XR Rivets
From: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:13:05 -0800
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On 3/9/16 8:25 AM, TexasRF@aol.com wrote:
There are plenty of reasons that this capacitance scenario is bogus. It
would be nearly impossible to maintain a spacing of 1 mil or 3 mils
between conductors with the pressure created by the element weight and
wind forces. Then there is the ever changing dielectric constant of
joint compound as moisture comes and goes with rain. There is the loss
tangent of the dielectric as well.

Sure, but I think the point is that you have some sort of ohmic connection (screws, rivets, what have you) and in parallel with that is some fairly decent capacitive connection. Both change with conditions, and both are low enough that it's not a big deal.

I would suggest that since the outer (farther from the boom) part of the element is a cantilever beam hanging inside the inner part of the element, that one side has a good high pressure connection of outer wall to inner wall, and the other side has a capacitive connection (or lossy joint compound or whatever).

In any case, with a 3 element Yagi, I doubt it makes any difference. If you were looking at some sort of exotic superdirective design with a lot of stored energy, and where tiny changes in the elements make big differences in the pattern, it might be important. But in that case, the wind blowing the elements around is probably a bigger deal.


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