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Re: [TowerTalk] More friction needed

To: Tim Duffy <k3lr@k3lr.com>, reflector -tower <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] More friction needed
From: Gary Saboe <gerald@saboe.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2022 03:54:15 +0000
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
What Steve K7LXC omitted from his question regarding the M2 mast clamp and mast 
friction situation is the mast size, but Grant KZ1W made a great recommendation 
below to increase the contact area for variations in mast size.  My prop pitch 
M2 mast clamp was previously modified by K7NV as he had resurfaced the clamp 
teeth of the M2 mast clamp included with his rebuilt small prop pitch for 
handling my 2-7/8" outside diameter galvanized chrome-moly 22ft mast, but still 
recommended pinning the mast.   As the newer K7NV designed mast clamp and the 
DX Engineering modification of the K7NV clamp both are specified for either 2" 
or 3", how well would either 3" version capture and secure my 2-7/8" mast?  How 
much tolerance for using a smaller mast diameter is built into the design? The 
DX Engineering modification of the K7NV clamp design by adding one or two clamp 
spreading bolt(s) to assist spreading the clamp seems like a great idea.

73,
Gary N0GS

-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Tim Duffy
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2022 8:02 PM
To: 'Steve Dyer W1SRD' <w1srd@yahoo.com>; reflector -tower 
<towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] More friction needed

I have 5 tower tops using the K7NV clamp. Large antennas, one Yagi stack (big 
40 and 10 meter beams) has 35 square feet of wind load at 260 feet! The K7NV 
clamps here have not slipped yet. 

73
Tim K3LR

-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Steve 
Dyer W1SRD via TowerTalk
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2022 8:42 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] More friction needed

What would a competent machine shop charge to do this? Most of us don't have a 
fully outfitted machine shop :-).
73,
Steve
W1SRD
> Bolt the two clamp sections to a lathe faceplate and bore them to the 
> mast diameter.  Remove enough material to enlarge the contact area and 
> insure the bore is true to the bases.  Use grade 8 bolts and use a 
> torque wrench to max spec torque for the size bolt.  Repeat this 
> tightening 3 times.
>
> The clamp bore as cast wasn't straight to the machined base and only a 
> few "points" would have made contact in the 2800 I have turning a 375# 
> 100ft tip to tip 2L 80m beam.  Now it doesn't slip.
>
> Grant KZ1W
>
> On 11/8/2022 10:00, k7lxc--- via TowerTalk wrote:
>> Howdy, TowerTalkians -
>>       I need more friction between an M2 mast clamp and the mast. How 
>> could I do that? What materials would work? Tnx. Cheers,Steve      
>> K7LXCCell: 206-890-4188

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