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Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 259, Issue 21

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 259, Issue 21
From: Michael Tope <W4EF@dellroy.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 05:54:59 -0700
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I don't see why it is a huge surprise that verticals produce a lower angle radiation when making pattern measurements in the direction of downward sloping terrain. Gravity isn't a factor in determining antenna radiation patterns (at least not a 1G) 🙂

73, Mike W4EF...............


On 7/27/2024 12:04 PM, dj7ww@t-online.de wrote:
Sorry, the topic was different.
Was about the difference between vertical and  horizonztal polarized antennas, 
not about the distance between 2 points, or the handicapped west coast stations.

73
Peter


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Betreff: Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 259, Issue 21
Datum: 2024-07-27T20:15:14+0200
Von: "W3AB via TowerTalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
An: "Gregg Seidl" <greggk9kl@gmail.com>

Greg,

We're not talking about antenna installation and/or efficiency.

We're talking about the distance between 2 points, regardless of the antenna. 
And potential obstacles. Basic physics.

Trust me, neither Jim nor I have small fragile egos.

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Sent from my two-way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/George ​

On Jul 27, 2024, 10:50, at 10:50, Gregg Seidl <greggk9kl@gmail.com> wrote:
Good lord, gentlemen! Why do each of you have to be right? Small ego?
Let
it rest!
The best antenna is the one you can install and actually use!
Some are better than others.

Gregg K9KL

On Sat, Jul 27, 2024, 11:50 AM GEO Badger via TowerTalk <
towertalk@contesting.com> wrote:

  What does DX stand for? I thought it meant "distance", though I
could be
wrong.
The west coast has some difficulty working the many stations in
Europe and
Africa. There is an additional 3K miles to be added on as Jim points
out.
And we have a big pile of dirt to the east of us. The last time I
checked,
RF doesn't go through dirt.
Speaking of dirt, even with an impressive ground conductance, 3K
miles and
the Rockies will add a degree of difficulty.
K9YC says:No, it's about east coast stations in DX contests (and
DXCC)
starting on
third base and thinking they hit a home run. Anything based on
countries
count gives anyone around the Atlantic Basin a huge advantage. You
realize it when you say you're competitive with stations in W1, who
are
hundreds of miles closer to EU, but discount it when thinking about
stations that are 3,000 miles farther from EU.

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Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side
73 de W3AB/GEOAFA9GB

WA2LSI, KE6RJW, W6B, W7B, AAR9AG
http://www.w3ab.org

Summers fly by,winters always walk.
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