Re: [TowerTalk] New antenna?

[David Gilbert via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>]

"Nothing scientific" Exactly. Receive is a pretty bad way to compare 
gain unless you did so with instrumentation. Signal to noise is how we 
usually judge signal strength by ear, and if the gain is less so will be 
the noise. I can hear a LOT of stations on antennas that are so bad on 
transmit that nobody would be able to hear me. Your "slightly less" 
could easily be several dB, and "not bad for an old design" is hardly a 
recommendation when better designs are available. Dave AB7E
On 3/30/2026 6:30 PM, Doug Renwick via TowerTalk wrote:
> Mosley bashing is never ending.
> So I had to see for myself.
> I was given a Mosley TA33 tribander. It is certainly well built.
> I mounted it at 50 ft pointed towards Europe.
> I also have a TH7DX at 50 ft that I can point in the same direction.
> I did a few receive signal comparisons. Nothing scientific but it gave me a 
> rough idea how the TA33 performs. Generally equal to or slightly less than the 
> TH7DX.
> My conclusion is the TA33 is not that bad as some claim and not bad for an old 
> design.
>
> Doug/VA5DX
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
> Subich, W4TV via TowerTalk
> Sent: March 30, 2026 5:46 PM
> To:towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] New antenna?
>
>
> On 2026-03-30 7:18 PM, Peter Voelpel via TowerTalk wrote:
> > Then how comes that they are always providing same or better signal
> > strength then other tribanders?
> They are not, as proven by proper range testing.
>
> My first tribander (50 years ago next year) was a Mosley TA36 ... I
> quickly replaced it with a set of Hy-Gain antennas (204BA, 155BA,
> 105BA) and never looked back.  Comparatively, the Mosley was a lead
> (HEAVY) dummy load and a set of dipoles performed as well.
>
> 73,
>
>      ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2026-03-30 7:18 PM, Peter Voelpel via TowerTalk wrote:
> > Then how comes that they are always providing same or better signal strength
> > then other tribanders?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> > Brown via TowerTalk
> > Sent: Dienstag, 31. März 2026 00:41
> > To:towertalk@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] New antenna?
> >
> > On 3/30/2026 3:16 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
> > > Suggest you get catalog from Mosley and consider one of their monobanders
> > if you don’t want traps.
> >
> > Monobanders are a great idea IF you have the real estate to rig them.
> > Moseley's big tribander came in dead last in the testing that N0AX and
> > K7LXC did in 1999. It even had negative gain (dBd -- with respect to a
> > dipole) on 15 and 10M, only 0.7 dB on 20M.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
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