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Re: [VHFcontesting] Contest rules and rovering

To: wz1v@sbcglobal.net, dl.daave@hotmail.com,vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Contest rules and rovering
From: KA2AEV@aol.com
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:22:40 EDT
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Honest Question after reading DL DAAVE's comments
Whats your callsign and how do you know so much about this?
Would have been nice if you validated your comments with a callsign
Mike
KA2AEV
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/17/2007 9:17:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wz1v@sbcglobal.net writes:

Having  just been freshly flamed by a couple of guys i consider to be my 
friends,  i might almost side with you. For about half a millisecond!
But by then  hopefully the brain kicks in, looks at the big picture, and 
saves most of  us from humiliating ourselves before hitting the Enter key. 
Most of us,  but not all. DL Dave dude, you have got to be kidding! I've 
known Dick  Frey for many years, have never been a part of his entourage, 
and while  true I don't agree with all of the MGEF operational tactics I've 
observed,  I must say in defense of him and the MGEF group that they have 
done more  good collectively to promote VHF-Microwave activity for more 
years than  most people can remember! For Gods' sake please show a little 
respect for  the movers and shakers in our community. Sorry everyone, 
couldn't leave  that one alone!
-73, Ron WZ1V


At 07:45 PM 09/17/2007, DL Dave  wrote:











>John  W1RT,
>
>In regards to a certain multi-op not working you on the  microwave bands 
during
>the last VHF contest, you aren't doing yourself  any favors by moving back
>here and saying '"some" New England multi-op  station'. Don't be such a 
light-
>weight. Why don't you come out and say  it man? What are you afraid of? They
>might not ever work you in the  future? I've been in the same boat and denied
>microwave contacts from  them too. It sucks, but let's put blame where blame 
 is
>due.
>
>Now that you are back up here in 1-land, let me  clear the names of the
>upstanding New England multi-ops and fill you in  (and any other new rovers
>that attempt to come through here) on the New  England multi-op station of
>which you so vaguely speak. W2SZ/1 - MGEF,  the Mighty Gay Egotistical
>Fu--ers.
>
>First, pre-contest  they've already filled their microwave log with a 
schedule
>that will  keep them working their self-deployed rovers all weekend, so there
>just  plain isn't any time to work you. Besides, they are only capable  of
>looking at these preassigned schedules, pointing their antennas  where told
>and listening for the calls written down in front of  them.
>
>Secondly, MGEF is more a cult than anything else. Those  who join in never 
come
>out and are sworn to secrecy. They have  brainwashed their ops with these
>canned responses of which you speak  and these newbie and naive KB2's, KC2's,
>N2's, they wrangle out of  school just don't know any better and believe
>everything they are  fed.  The elders hide behind these op's claiming 
ignorance
>and in  turn avoid blame.
>
>Thirdly, the majority of their microwave  equipment is proprietary, with 
their
>non-standard I/Fs and offsets  which in turn preclude you from working the
>mountaintop gays or their  rovers.
>
>Plainly put, they have neither the desire nor  capability to work you. In 
fact,
>you are just getting in the way of  their weekend script, so get used to this
>type of response they feed  you. In short, neither MGEF nor their rovers need
>your microwave  contacts, nor will they ever.
>
>Their phcktard leader Dick Frey  WA2AAU can be thanked for all of this. Dick
>shouldn't be listed in the  Hall of Fame, but more over WA2AAU should be the
>first member of the  VHF HALL OF SHAME. He has single handedly done the VHF
>contesting  community the biggest disservice ever with his scumbag  tactics.
>
>You would think that the ARRL/VUAC would work to warn,  eliminate or DQ such
>a phcked up operation such as MGEF, but given that  two of the VUAC
>members are part of the MGEF cronies(**) list, I highly  doubt it. Expect
>more of the same from MGEF on future roves up here,  until someone at the
>ARRL has enough balls to stand up to them and set  them straight. Or better
>yet, maybe the ARRL will follow suite as CQ  has done and start publishing 
logs
>and let the entire VHF community see  what is truly going on within MGEF and
>make the call for  themselves.
>
>As for all the current students of RPI and the real  W2SZ, wake up and smell
>the coffee kids. Disassociate yourselves from  this operation. Get your
>station callsign back and away from MGEF and  prevent any further tarnishing
>of a great educational system and ham  club. Don't be bamboozled by a Dick
>and the cronies(**) under his  spell, else you too will be sucked down the
>path of  darkness.
>
>Finally, I hope the rest of the VHF community sees  MGEF's antics don't just
>affect those in the multi-op category, or just  those in New England, but 
they
>affect us all, rovers, single-ops and  non-W1's alike.  So stand up and say,
>We're as mad as hell and we  aren't going to accept this type of behavior and
>operating practice any  more!
>
>John, I hope this was a good lesson for you and that you  and Xtof aren't
>discouraged from roving up here in New England in the  future. Better luck
>next time!
>
>73 DL  Daave
>







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