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Re: [VHFcontesting] rules

To: w4wa@alltel.net, geoiii@kkn.net, vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] rules
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:40:25 EST
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Coming from one who does both HF and VHF contests, I think of the  difference 
as the difference between drinking beer (HF) and sipping scotch  (VHF).  The 
volume is a lot higher on HF; you have to savor every drop on  VHF. But done 
right, at the end the result is the same (satisfaction, I  hope!).
 
The rules about use of telephones happened after VP2KC did a  multi-multi in 
the 1979 CQWW SSB, which included a lot of calling people around  the world to 
ask "hey, can you get on 21205 and give us a call right now". Not  viewed as 
sportsmanlike, and at that time it took a heck of a lot of money,  especially 
calling from a third world QTH.  I believe there was some use of  the same 
tactic from OH0 before it was finally banned.
 
 
A great video skit was done not too long after that, by the Kansas  City DX 
guys at their suite at Dayton. (AB0I was one of their big gun  multis at the 
time) :
 
 
 
CQ Contest from Alpha Bravo Zero India 
 
    (Noise, QRM, Etc)
 
QRZ, AB0I
 
     (More noise, QRM, etc.)
     (phone rings)      Hello.... what's that... Oh!!!!
 
(Back on the radio): Oscar Hotel Zero Radio you're five nine oh four
 
    (More noise, QRN, QRM, etc)
 
Oscar Hotel Zero Radio, QSL, Thank you very much, QRZ from Alpha Bravo Zero  
India
 
 
 
 
The rules (on VHF) far predated the time when anybody out in the field,  
whether roving or mountaintopping, would have even dreamed of having a  
telephone 
available. Not to mention that long distance calls actually cost money  back 
then.
 
 
73  -  Jim   K8MR
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/29/2008 8:48:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
w4wa@alltel.net writes:

Hi  George

Coming from both a HF and VHF contesting background as well, I  agree with
Marshall. The way I remember it, HF contesters were the primary  reason the
rule concerning the use of phone calls during the contest was  created. Many
HF contesters were calling buddies around the world on the  phone to get
multipliers. Somehow the rule got pushed into the VHF contest.  The reason I
remember it, is because I never agreed with it in VHF contest  then or now.
(This was long before Internet and packet)

The  difference is that on any HF band you camp on with little regard to
where  the antenna is pointed and frequency, you can make contacts, On UHF
and up,  the antenna direction, time of operation and frequency is very
important to  make a single contact. To me, this seems to play down the use
of higher  freqencies during a contest which is something that needs to  be
promoted.

The rover guys seem to be affected by this rule more  since many are only in
a grid for a short time. The use of cell phones by  the rovers will continue
to happen regardless of the rules, there will  always be a buddy that will
get the grid. I see the map idea to track  rovers as a way to help eliminate
some of the buddy contacts and make  things happen more random.

The next thing you guys will be discussing  is eliminating the use of
computers to log the contact and insisting on  going back to paper logs.

Lets focus on making the contacts and not  complicted rules.

Ron W4WA







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