I think we may be making this a LOT more complicated than it needs to be. The
4 point issue wouldn't be an issue were it not for the grid squaring. They
couldn't possibly make enough contacts on the microwave bands if they were not
with a group. I think two very minor additions to the rules would clear things
up pretty quickly:
1. Limited Rover limited to 10 contacts with any single other rover. Classic
Rover limited to 20.
2. Limited and Classic Rover shall not participate in group efforts intended
to coordinate contacts over multiple grids with other rovers.
Yes, I know that second one is a bit vague, but that's intentional. Its a
catch-all to allow the ARRL to make determinations when somebody tries to
wiggle through a loophole. There's more than one of those in the rules
already. One more can only help.
The first one might do the trick by itself. Without traveling together, I
think its pretty hard to make more than those limits anyway. Having the
current 100 contact limit is just ridiculous.
Steve
K4GUN/R
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Duffey" <jamesduffey@comcast.net>
To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Cc: "James Duffey" <jamesduffey@comcast.net>, "frank bechdoldt"
<k3uhf@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:29:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [VHFcontesting] More Roving
Frank - You wrote:
To answer James’s question : The issue is more the manipulation of
the rules and lack of forethought in the creation of the rules. That
being taking something that was meant to encourage new people to our
sport and manipulating it to work as a team to win all three classes
roving. This is like having Bobbie Fisher showing up to the elementary
school chess club and beating all the 8 year old kids in 5 moves and
using the results to declare himself national champ. That being said
I’m sure some would compete in a limited fashion just to see how far
they could go, So it needs to be limited at or below 1.3 ghz. That’s
where the commercial stuff is and that what the class was made for.
This would not punish the microwave people. They are not beginners.
The process of healing of ALL contesting will begin with open logs.
I am not sure that the VUAC thought of the limited class exclusively
to attract Joe 706 pack to contesting, but rather to form a class
where one would not need significant resources to compete effectively
as a rover. A four band and a 160 Watt limitation pretty well defines
the upper limit of what one can spend on a rove and still drive around
in a street legal vehicle. While I am sure that the VUAC did not
contemplate a limited rover operating solely on the microwave bands
while roving, they did nothing to prevent that in the rules. Now that
has happened they can reconsider hte rule, if it should be changed and
if something should be changed, what.
Rules are rules. One either follows the rules or he disregards them.
If one can follow the rules and not get the expected results then the
rules need to be changed. But one should not blame the one who is
following the rules.
There are lots of ways to deal with grid squaring. The current attempt
was a good start. It is not perfect, nor did the VUAC expect it to be.
It can be made to work. There are other alternatives. I outlined some
of them in a previous e-mail.
No matter what we think of the present situation, it does no good to
complain without suggesting a viable alternative. Suggesting that
someone do something is not very valuable. Suggesting what
specifically they should do is a much more valuable contribution to
the sport. If you don't like the current state of affairs in roving,
suggest specific alternatives that will fix the problem without
introducing new problems. - Duffey
--
KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM
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