Hello Marshall,
I worked a European station on 144 CW back in the mid 70's during a
European contest that used distance to determine the score. My one contact
put me way ahead of many stations in Germany and France who spent the entire
weekend working many local stations for their score. I actually entrered the
contest and it was very interesting to see my call listed about midway in
the published standings with only one contact.
You are right with distance scoring. EME contacts really skew the
results. If such a plan leaves EME contacts as is, then the big multis will
all use EME to bolster their scores and stay within the rules. You have
already done that. I know that W2SZ has a 144 EMEstation already as well.
73
Dave K1WHS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Williams" <k5qe@sabinenet.com>
To: <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:08 PM
Subject: [VHFcontesting] A distance scoring contest
> Hello to everyone.....Concerning the Distance scoring thing: First, let
> me say that I neither oppose nor favor a distance measured contest. I
> have never operated in one and it might be fun.
>
> However, I would like to bring up an issue that has not been
> considered. In the Jan VHF contest, I made 36 2M EME contacts with
> stations all over Europe and the US. Although there are only a few
> JA's, VK's, and ZL's on EME, it is certainly possible to work them too.
> Below I have listed a few of these contacts, just for calculation
> purposes.
>
> A bit of analysis here: The longest contact made was to Glenn, ZS2GK at
> 9124 miles....the shortest to John, W4RBO, was only 774 miles. Most EU
> contacts are 5000+ miles. The run of the mill US contacts were from
> 1200- to 1900- miles. I have only listed 31 contacts, with a total
> mileage of 120997.
>
> The issue that I want to advance is that a single contact of 9124 miles
> would be the same as 91 contacts of 100 miles--or 45 contacts of 200
> miles. I doubt very much that I make 45 contacts of 200 miles or more
> to non-EME stations in *any* VHF contest on 2M. The contacts listed(the
> other 5 are scattered in my log somewhere) would be equivalent to 1209
> contacts of 100 miles and 604 contacts of 200 miles!! I certainly have
> never made 1209 contacts on 2M in any contest, much less of 100 miles.
> I have never made 604 contacts on 2M either....of any distance. I guess
> I can dream.....HI.
>
> Hence, and I am finally getting to the point of all this, a distance
> scoring contest would inevitably become a "mini-EME" contest with
> whatever locals you could find thrown in. I would participate in this
> contest and have fun, especially since I would have a major advantage
> over everyone in the country except for a few spoil sports.....like
> W5UN, KB8RQ, K9MRI, W7GJ, K6MYC, K1JT, and a few others. HI. You may
> see pictures of my "advantage" on my web site.
>
> Finally, a contest where the advantage of the folks living in the
> "Golden Corridor" is eliminated!!! It is CLEAR that we should have such
> a contest!!! Considering how awful the propagation was in this Jan
> contest, maybe the Jan contest should be it.
>
> OK you say, we will just ban EME contacts in such a contest. Well that
> certainly files in the face of a distance measured contest. We want
> people to work hard to make difficult, long distance contacts--just not
> TOO long distance!!
>
> Again, I think that a distance measured contest might be fun and I would
> certainly participate. I just wanted everyone to know how such a
> contest will be "gamed".
>
> GM es 73 to all.....Marshall K5QE
> www.k5qe.com
>
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0704 K5QE EM31 ZS2GK
> KF47 9124 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0710 K5QE EM31 DL8GP
> JN39 5055 miles
> QSO: 144 CW 2009-01-18 0720 K5QE EM31 SM2CEW
> KP15 4963 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0730 K5QE EM31 RK3FG
> KO86 5729 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0734 K5QE EM31 K0KP
> EN36 1043 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0750 K5QE EM31 IK1UWL
> JN33 5260 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0754 K5QE EM31 HA0HO
> KN07 5666 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0758 K5QE EM31 K0AWU
> EN37 1112 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0802 K5QE EM31 9A3GE
> JN75 5519 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0807 K5QE EM31 YL2HA
> KO26 5403 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0811 K5QE EM31 OM3BC
> JN98 5550 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0816 K5QE EM31 YT3I
> KN05 5752 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0820 K5QE EM31 WB2RVX
> FM29 1195 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0825 K5QE EM31 DK1CO
> JO63 5139 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0832 K5QE EM31 IK1FJI
> JN44 5310 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0837 K5QE EM31 DK5EW
> JN48 5168 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0845 K5QE EM31 DL4DWA
> JO61 5212 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0855 K5QE EM31 S52LM
> JN65 5438 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0905 K5QE EM31 K1JT
> FN20 1224 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0908 K5QE EM31 WA3QPX
> FM29 1195 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0914 K5QE EM31 DJ9EV
> JN49 5134 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0921 K5QE EM31 K6MYC
> DM07 1495 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0924 K5QE EM31 IK2DDR
> JN55 5357 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0940 K5QE EM31 I2FAK
> JN45 5274 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0958 K5QE EM31 EB1DNK
> IN62 4655 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 1025 K5QE EM31 K7CW
> CN87 1899 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 1100 K5QE EM31 K1OR
> FN42 1469 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 1110 K5QE EM31 W7CE
> CN87 1889 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 1134 K5QE EM31 W4RBO
> EL99 774 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 1140 K5QE EM31 W1TMZ
> FN41 1442 miles
> QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 1146 K5QE EM31 VE5UF
> DO61 1542 miles
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