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Re: [VHFcontesting] VUAC Survey input/ debate

To: <jimk8mr@aol.com>, <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VUAC Survey input/ debate
From: frank bechdoldt <k3uhf@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:02:02 -0800
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There was a scandal of a HF contest that forbid the use of spotting.  However 
there is no way to prevent a proxy spotter on the internet.  However one 
disgruntled contestant was able to correlate two things.  

 

1. Another contestant that was benefiting from by proxy spots. IE his qso count 
would go up when he switched bands and parked it on a new frequency and someone 
continually "happened" to spot him within the first 3 qsos each time. As 
compared to being spotted after 25 qsos for other people who are spotted 
randomly.

 

2.  A second contestant who was using the spots to complete QSOS because he 
would constanly work a station within a minute or two of each new spot vs a 10 
minute average for the average person. 

 

this was in a World wide HF contest a few years ago.
 


From: Jimk8mr@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:57:45 -0500
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VUAC Survey input/ debate
To: k3uhf@hotmail.com; vhfcontesting@contesting.com


 
 
In a message dated 2/11/2010 11:43:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
k3uhf@hotmail.com writes:
A major scandal like this happened one with a CQ HF contest where someone 
documented unassisted people were being spotted and the QSO times matched the 
spots. Why expose an ARRL contest to that?
 
What are you talking about?  When was this ever a scandal?
 
This happens all the time in HF contests, and nobody cares about it in regard 
to rules violations. It may be annoying that people like me in Ohio get spotted 
less than someone in Vermont or Puerto Rico, but it has never been an  
adjudication issue.
 
There have been issues with people who claimed to be unassisted who made qsos 
that lined up with posted packet spots, and who were disqualified or 
reclassified. But this is in no way what you are talking about.
 
73  -  Jim   K8MR


                                          
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