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Re: [VHFcontesting] FT8?- tarnation!

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] FT8?- tarnation!
From: Jay RM <w9rm@calmesapartners.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 12:14:41 -0700
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Alex, it's my opinion one of the reasons we even have to deal with this
issue is that the 'movers and shakers'  of the contest world are
HFcentric.  Except for one contest (10M test) almost every other HF contest
is split mode - you work a phone weekend, then a CW weekend, with maybe a
RTTY (read that as digital now) weekend added on.  ARRL DX, CQWW, ARRL SS,
NAQP, SPRINTS, you name it.  I really don't think they understand the
impact WSJT has had on VHF contesting - they never have to deal with it
within any of their contests.


Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:02 PM <alex@kr1st.com> wrote:

> I think the best approach is a separate contest for digital modes. It's
> done on HF, and it's done in other countries. This is not terribly
> difficult.
> The points per mode approach is doomed to fail I'm afraid. That may be a
> solution if there would be an overall lack of activity. Then you can
> make a contest more attractive by allowing to work the same station on a
> different mode. However, in the areas where the complaints are the
> loudest, there is no lack of activity. In fact, the level of activity is
> sufficiently high on FT8 to warrant its own contest, and disallow non
> burst type digital modes in the "regular" contest.
> By doing nothing, or by trying to somehow change the rules of the
> current contest to make it more attractive to operate on other modes and
> bands, I think you can be assured that the VHF contests will turn into
> digital mode contests. I'm OK with that if that happens, but I'd rather
> operate both a traditional _and_ a digital mode contest.
> Now an enterprising club could take advantage of the current situation
> and use it as an opportunity to organize a digital mode contest within
> the current contests...
> 73,
> --Alex KR1ST
> On 2021-01-20 10:57, Sean Waite wrote:
> > Personally I don't think that's another contest, and that we need to
> > find a
> > way to co-exist inside the same contest. I'm not sure of the best way
> > to do
> > that. We have 3 contests in a year - we should try a different approach
> > on
> > each one (and yes, I realize there are weather and band conditions that
> > change these contests) and see what approaches work well and which
> > don't.
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