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Subject: [WriteLog] Recording question
From: tgeorgen@lsil.com (Georgens, Tom)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:52:02 -0500
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I also intend to use it as Barry says.  I would also like to have a record
of some of the more enjoyable/lighter moments.  Also people always ask me
questions about packet pileups, "How do I sound down there," etc.  

I agree that listening to the full 48 hours for entertainment or log
sanitization would be a colossal bore.

73, Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Barry [mailto:w2up@mindspring.com]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:06 AM
To: Gil Baron; 'writelog@contesting.com'
Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Recording question


Gil,
After recording, if you right-click on any callsign in the log, it brings 
up a submenu including "play audio snippet." It will play the 
individual QSO. I recorded last year's CQWW CW. I found it helpful 
after getting my UBN file back. I went to listen to the QSOs of my 
busted calls. I learned from that (and part of what I learned is that 
log checking isn't perfect).
73 Barry

On 22 Oct 01, Gil Baron wrote:

> Who is ever gong to listen to 24 hours of recorded contest again anyway. I

> sure don't see any reason to record a contest. You will never find what
you 
> are looking for anyhow as there is no such thing as audio search.
> 
> I guess I just don't get it?
> 
> 
> At 23:06 10/21/2001, Georgens, Tom wrote:
> >Nick -
> >
> >You are right on the mark!
> >
> >I downloaded WMP 7.1 and the the coding algorithms appeared.  By my 
> >calculations, an 800 MB CD will tolerate about 4.6KB/second.  Allowing
for 
> >an extra hour and 740 MB CD's, anything that records at or below 4KB/s 
> >should be fine.
> >
> >Not having a station at home, I am playing on of my daughter's CD's on my

> >wife's PC to generate something to record.  The highest performance Mono 
> >setting sounds pretty good and generates 3.9KB/sec.  I presume that radio

> >audio will be OK with even slower sampling.
> >
> >If only Writelog (more specifically my soundboard) could mix the mic and 
> >line in, it would be really cool
> >
> >Thanks for your help
> >
> >73 Tom W2SC
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Nick Lekic [mailto:va3na@rac.ca]
> >Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 7:12 PM
> >To: Georgens, Tom
> >Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Recording question
> >
> >Hi Tom:
> >
> >You may have to install Windows Media Player 7.1 to get the MPEG 3 
> >Compression format available to choose from Writelog.
> >Here, I am using 32 kBit/s  11,025  3 Kb/s MPEG-3 format option.   File 
> >for one hour of recorded audio is 14 Mb in size.   For the entire contest

> >it comes up to 672 Mb.   It should fit on 80 minute CD.
> >
> >73 and gl in test
> >
> >Nick, va3na
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Georgens, Tom wrote:
> >>I am planning to record the WW SSB contest using Writelog and I have
been 
> >>searching the archives for tips.
> >>Some people (W2UP, K3WW) have mentioned using MPEG level 3 which could 
> >>record the entire contest in under 400MB.  This has the added benefit of

> >>fitting on a CD for more permanent archive.  However, I do not have an 
> >>MPEG choice under Writelog for compression options.  Is this a function 
> >>of Writelog or the sound card I am using?
> >>Assuming that I cannot use MPEG, what other settings have other people 
> >>used successfully that could fit in 800MB.  This is about 4KB/sec
> >>I have tried a few and one of the Microsoft ADPCM options sounded best 
> >>for 4KB/Sec.  I suppose another option is to record it with high quality

> >>and try to compress it afterwards with software but I suspect that will 
> >>be a long job.
> >>Thanks for your help,
> >>Tom W2SC (8P5A or 8P1A next weekend)
> 
> Gil Baron http://members.home.com/gbaron
> W0MN 44.08208 N 92.51263 W 1055'
> "Baila como nadie te ve"
> 


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Newtown, PA                     Frankford Radio Club
         
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I also intend to use it as Barry says.&nbsp; I would =
also like to have a record of some of the more enjoyable/lighter =
moments.&nbsp; Also people always ask me questions about packet =
pileups, &quot;How do I sound down there,&quot; etc.&nbsp; </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I agree that listening to the full 48 hours for =
entertainment or log sanitization would be a colossal bore.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>73, Tom</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Barry [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:w2up@mindspring.com";>mailto:w2up@mindspring.com</A>]</FON=
T>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:06 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Gil Baron; 'writelog@contesting.com'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Recording question</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Gil,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>After recording, if you right-click on any callsign =
in the log, it brings </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>up a submenu including &quot;play audio =
snippet.&quot; It will play the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>individual QSO. I recorded last year's CQWW CW. I =
found it helpful </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>after getting my UBN file back. I went to listen to =
the QSOs of my </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>busted calls. I learned from that (and part of what =
I learned is that </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>log checking isn't perfect).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>73 Barry</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>On 22 Oct 01, Gil Baron wrote:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Who is ever gong to listen to 24 hours of =
recorded contest again anyway. I </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; sure don't see any reason to record a contest. =
You will never find what you </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; are looking for anyhow as there is no such =
thing as audio search.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I guess I just don't get it?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; At 23:06 10/21/2001, Georgens, Tom =
wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;Nick -</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;You are right on the mark!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;I downloaded WMP 7.1 and the the coding =
algorithms appeared.&nbsp; By my </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;calculations, an 800 MB CD will tolerate =
about 4.6KB/second.&nbsp; Allowing for </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;an extra hour and 740 MB CD's, anything =
that records at or below 4KB/s </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;should be fine.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;Not having a station at home, I am playing =
on of my daughter's CD's on my </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;wife's PC to generate something to =
record.&nbsp; The highest performance Mono </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;setting sounds pretty good and generates =
3.9KB/sec.&nbsp; I presume that radio </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;audio will be OK with even slower =
sampling.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;If only Writelog (more specifically my =
soundboard) could mix the mic and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;line in, it would be really cool</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;Thanks for your help</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;73 Tom W2SC</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;From: Nick Lekic [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:va3na@rac.ca";>mailto:va3na@rac.ca</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 7:12 =
PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;To: Georgens, Tom</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Recording =
question</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;Hi Tom:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;You may have to install Windows Media =
Player 7.1 to get the MPEG 3 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;Compression format available to choose from =
Writelog.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;Here, I am using 32 kBit/s&nbsp; =
11,025&nbsp; 3 Kb/s MPEG-3 format option.&nbsp;&nbsp; File </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;for one hour of recorded audio is 14 Mb in =
size.&nbsp;&nbsp; For the entire contest </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;it comes up to 672 Mb.&nbsp;&nbsp; It =
should fit on 80 minute CD.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;73 and gl in test</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;Nick, va3na</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;Georgens, Tom wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;I am planning to record the WW SSB =
contest using Writelog and I have been </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;searching the archives for tips.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;Some people (W2UP, K3WW) have mentioned =
using MPEG level 3 which could </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;record the entire contest in under =
400MB.&nbsp; This has the added benefit of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;fitting on a CD for more permanent =
archive.&nbsp; However, I do not have an </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;MPEG choice under Writelog for =
compression options.&nbsp; Is this a function </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;of Writelog or the sound card I am =
using?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;Assuming that I cannot use MPEG, what =
other settings have other people </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;used successfully that could fit in =
800MB.&nbsp; This is about 4KB/sec</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;I have tried a few and one of the =
Microsoft ADPCM options sounded best </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;for 4KB/Sec.&nbsp; I suppose another =
option is to record it with high quality </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;and try to compress it afterwards with =
software but I suspect that will </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;be a long job.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;Thanks for your help,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;Tom W2SC (8P5A or 8P1A next =
weekend)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Gil Baron <A =
HREF=3D"http://members.home.com/gbaron"; =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://members.home.com/gbaron</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; W0MN 44.08208 N 92.51263 W 1055'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &quot;Baila como nadie te ve&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Barry Kutner, =
W2UP&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; Internet: w2up@mindspring.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Newtown, =
PA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Frankford Radio =
Club</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</FONT>
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