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DITTO the Below for the most part...=20
It's a good program.. that's why I use it..
It's the best available Modern (windows based) contest software out =
there.
As I tell the guys that work at our company "We all have options in =
life... If you don't like the current situation.. do something about it"
Tom
AE9B
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Carleton Reed=20
To: writelog@contesting.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:50 PM
Subject: Fw: [WriteLog] I can't stand it anymore - Pro Writelog =
Comment
I agree 100% with all the msgs I read below. I am a new user of WL. I =
purchased it in November. Im still learning how to use the program. The =
10 meter contest was the very first contest using WL. I have seen so =
many msgs on how the 10 meter module needs work or how it didnt log in =
the QTH box correctly, or I didnt score the points right or there was a =
problem with the multipliers or reporting.=20
Well I must have done EVERYTHING right using WL during the 10m =
contest, either that or I must be one of the few that have a version of =
WL that. has NO bugs or problems and I know that is no true. I had =
absolutely NO problems with logging, with the scoring, with entering the =
QTH or multipliers. One note on the QTH..... when working a DX station, =
if they are not in the contest but giving you a contact then their =
number will be 001 or you cant count it. After the contest, WL continued =
to do everything correctly when I created my reports to send off to =
ARRL. I created both reports to email them and paper reports as if I was =
going to mail them. All without a problem.
Despite all the problems I been reading about on how WL needs work or =
improvements in the 10 meter mudule, on a positive note, WL worked =
perfectly for me. And it makes me feel good to know that Im not the only =
one that feels WL is a very nice program. I agree with all the msgs sent =
to the reflector below from Tom, Dirk, Barry and Richard. Its time to =
start being positive on what WL can do and helping new ones so that they =
dont get discouraged. I have yet to interface my TS-570 with my computer =
to use some of the other features WL has to offer. But when I do, I will =
follow the setup intructions on Scots webpage which hadnt failed me yet.
Carleton, AA6GZ
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If the threads on the reflector would stick to WL issues without =
beating up on those who write the code and support it, it would be a =
good place to visit. Most of the time there is a nauseating and endless =
debate on peripheral issues, like the merits of supercheck partial or =
having the program fill in states (like it fills in zones in CQWW).
The bandwidth is unacceptable. I delete 95% of the WL emails each day =
without opening them.
Tom, K5RC=20
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Dear,
I have been reading the wishes and other messages about WL on this =
reflector.
I am a WL user since july and I have run this software without any =
complains in several contests.
Last weekend I was using WL in the OK DX RTTY contest for several =
hours and also in the 10 m ARRL contest in SSB and CW modes. I =
switched between the two contests in a second wihtout any errors or =
warnings.=20
I used WL in 3 modes back and forth , it was a pleasure to use.
I have updated my software to the 10.29E version .
I say thanks to the software writers , beta testers and K9JY
Seasons Greetings,
73=20
ON4ADZ=20
DIRK DESLOOVERE.
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I agree with Richard 100%. Insult or piss off Wayne and he will ignore =
you. If enough people do it, who knows, he may give it up.
Here's my real life analogy:
In the late 80s/early 90s, I was produced and sold kits for a packet=20
modem I designed, for the Commodore 64 (Digicom64). The first few=20
years (I call it the "first wave") were fun, getting a lot of positive =
feedback, and I even made a little money (less than $10/kit, =
actually).=20
Eventually the first wave ended, and the second wave began. It=20
included guys who never built anything before, but were too cheap to=20
buy it from me pre-assembled. Some of the PC boards (approx 3x5=20
inches with several ICs and other small parts) returned to me looked=20
like they were assembled using a blowtorch or 200 W Weller gun. A=20
few I could handle. At some point, it became too time consuming and=20
frustrating, and I just said "I don't need this. I have a life and =
real job,"=20
and that was it for me.
Let's not do this to Wayne.
73,
Barry W2UP
On 19 Dec 2001 Richard Thorne wrote:
> I can't take it any more.
>=20
> Writelog is a great program, has good support and continues to =
improve.
> Did anyone see the posting from Ron about 10.29 being released which
> address's several of the issues that have been discussed on this
> reflector?
>=20
> These guys have real jobs to make a living and write/distribute WL =
in
> their spare time.
>=20
> How many of you have purchased other programs (non-ham radio =
related)
> and had compatibility problems with the video card or sound card ect
> ect. Hey its part of having a computer.
>=20
> What I can't stand, and I mean can't stand is the following type of
> post:
>=20
> ' I can't get xxxx to work, it should, the author should have
> thought of this before, he needs to fix it now'
>=20
> ' The documentation stinks I can't even print it out'
>=20
> ' This feature would be a piece of cake to code, where's Wayne?'
>=20
> ect, ect, ect
>=20
> This reflector is a support group and a very good one. If you can't
> find it in the manual or the archives ask your questions here, 9 =
times
> out of 10 you'll get a decent answer. The 1 out of 10 is probably a
> hardware issue on your pc and no one here on the reflector will be =
able
> to help you.
>=20
> But please stop the posts about the author needs to this or that and =
it
> needs to be like ct or tr or na or.... Hey I was a CT and NA user
> before Writelog. But everything is going to windows, dos is on its =
way
> out if not all ready gone. Writelog is doing a very good job and I
> think a little support for Wayne and Ron would go a lot farther than
> complaining that it doesn't do this or that.
>=20
> If you have a problem ask your question here. If you have an idea =
to
> make the program better post it here. But stop the complaining. If =
you
> don't like it use something else. I for one am going to sign up for
> another year of releases and continue to support the program.
>=20
> THANKS to Wayne and Ron for writing and supporting a great program.
>=20
>=20
> --
> Richard Thorne - N5ZC
> Amarillo, TX
>=20
>=20
> _______________________________________________
> WriteLog mailing list
> WriteLog@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/writelog
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DITTO the Below for the most part... =
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's a good program.. that's why I use=20
it..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's the best available Modern (windows =
based)=20
contest software out there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As I tell the guys that work at our =
company "We all=20
have options in life... If you don't like the current situation.. do =
something=20
about it"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AE9B</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dcarleton@lemoorenet.com=20
href=3D"mailto:carleton@lemoorenet.com">Carleton Reed</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dwritelog@contesting.com=20
href=3D"mailto:writelog@contesting.com">writelog@contesting.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 19, =
2001 1:50=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fw: [WriteLog] I can't =
stand it=20
anymore - Pro Writelog Comment</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I agree 100% with all the msgs I read =
below. =20
I am a new user of WL. I purchased it in November. Im still learning =
how to=20
use the program. The 10 meter contest was the very first contest using =
WL. I=20
have seen so many msgs on how the 10 meter module needs=20
work or how it didnt log in the QTH box correctly, or I =
didnt score=20
the points right or there was a problem with the multipliers or =
reporting.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Well I must have done EVERYTHING =
right using WL=20
during the 10m contest, either that or I must be one of the few that =
have a=20
version of WL that. has NO bugs or problems and I know that is no =
true. I had=20
absolutely NO problems with logging, with the scoring, with entering =
the QTH=20
or multipliers. One note on the QTH..... when working a DX station, if =
they=20
are not in the contest but giving you a contact then their number =
will be=20
001 or you cant count it. After the contest, WL continued to do =
everything=20
correctly when I created my reports to send off to ARRL. I created =
both=20
reports to email them and paper reports as if I was going to mail =
them. All=20
without a problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Despite all the problems I been reading about on =
how WL=20
needs work or improvements in the 10 meter mudule, on a positive note, =
WL=20
worked perfectly for me. And it makes me feel good to know that Im not =
the=20
only one that feels WL is a very nice program. I agree with all the =
msgs sent=20
to the reflector below from Tom, Dirk, Barry and Richard. Its time to =
start=20
being positive on what WL can do and helping new ones so that they =
dont get=20
discouraged. I have yet to interface my TS-570 with my computer to use =
some of=20
the other features WL has to offer. But when I do, I will follow the =
setup=20
intructions on Scots webpage which hadnt failed me yet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Carleton, AA6GZ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial size=3D2 =
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">If the threads on the reflector would stick to WL =
issues=20
without beating up on those who write the code and support it, it =
would be a=20
good place to visit. Most of the time there is a nauseating and =
endless debate=20
on peripheral issues, like the merits of supercheck partial or having =
the=20
program fill in states (like it fills in zones in CQWW).<BR><BR>The =
bandwidth=20
is unacceptable. I delete 95% of the WL emails each day without =
opening=20
them.<BR><BR>Tom, K5RC</FONT> </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Dear,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I have been reading the wishes=20
and other messages about WL on this =
reflector.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I am a WL user since july and I have run =
this=20
software without any complains in several contests.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Last weekend I was using WL in the OK DX RTTY =
contest=20
for several hours and also in the 10 m ARRL contest in SSB and CW=20
modes. I switched between the two contests in a =
second=20
wihtout any errors or warnings. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I used WL in 3 modes back and forth , it was a =
pleasure=20
to use.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I have updated my software to the 10.29E =
version=20
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I say thanks to =
the software writers ,=20
beta testers and K9JY</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Seasons Greetings,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>ON4ADZ </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>DIRK DESLOOVERE.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>I agree with Richard 100%. Insult or piss off Wayne and he will =
ignore=20
<BR>you. If enough people do it, who knows, he may give it =
up.<BR><BR>Here's=20
my real life analogy:<BR>In the late 80s/early 90s, I was produced and =
sold=20
kits for a packet <BR>modem I designed, for the Commodore 64 =
(Digicom64). The=20
first few <BR>years (I call it the "first wave") were fun, getting a =
lot of=20
positive <BR>feedback, and I even made a little money (less than =
$10/kit,=20
actually). <BR>Eventually the first wave ended, and the second wave =
began. It=20
<BR>included guys who never built anything before, but were too cheap =
to=20
<BR>buy it from me pre-assembled. Some of the PC boards (approx =
3x5=20
<BR>inches with several ICs and other small parts) returned to me =
looked=20
<BR>like they were assembled using a blowtorch or 200 W Weller =
gun. A=20
<BR>few I could handle. At some point, it became too time consuming =
and=20
<BR>frustrating, and I just said "I don't need this. I have a life and =
real=20
job," <BR>and that was it for me.<BR><BR>Let's not do this to=20
Wayne.<BR>73,<BR>Barry W2UP<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On 19 Dec 2001 Richard =
Thorne=20
wrote:<BR><BR>> I can't take it any more.<BR>> <BR>> Writelog =
is a=20
great program, has good support and continues to improve.<BR>> Did =
anyone=20
see the posting from Ron about 10.29 being released which<BR>> =
address's=20
several of the issues that have been discussed on this<BR>>=20
reflector?<BR>> <BR>> These guys have real jobs to make a living =
and=20
write/distribute WL in<BR>> their spare time.<BR>> <BR>> How =
many of=20
you have purchased other programs (non-ham radio related)<BR>> and =
had=20
compatibility problems with the video card or sound card ect<BR>>=20
ect. Hey its part of having a computer.<BR>> <BR>> What I =
can't=20
stand, and I mean can't stand is the following type of<BR>> =
post:<BR>>=20
<BR>> ' I can't get xxxx to work, it =
should,=20
the author should have<BR>> thought of this before, he needs to fix =
it=20
now'<BR>> <BR>> ' The documentation =
stinks I=20
can't even print it out'<BR>> <BR>> ' =
This=20
feature would be a piece of cake to code, where's Wayne?'<BR>> =
<BR>>=20
ect, ect, ect<BR>> <BR>> This reflector is a support group and a =
very=20
good one. If you can't<BR>> find it in the manual or the =
archives ask=20
your questions here, 9 times<BR>> out of 10 you'll get a decent=20
answer. The 1 out of 10 is probably a<BR>> hardware issue on =
your pc=20
and no one here on the reflector will be able<BR>> to help =
you.<BR>>=20
<BR>> But please stop the posts about the author needs to this or =
that and=20
it<BR>> needs to be like ct or tr or na or.... Hey I was a CT =
and NA=20
user<BR>> before Writelog. But everything is going to =
windows, dos is=20
on its way<BR>> out if not all ready gone. Writelog is doing =
a very=20
good job and I<BR>> think a little support for Wayne and Ron would =
go a lot=20
farther than<BR>> complaining that it doesn't do this or =
that.<BR>>=20
<BR>> If you have a problem ask your question here. If you =
have an=20
idea to<BR>> make the program better post it here. But stop =
the=20
complaining. If you<BR>> don't like it use something =
else. I=20
for one am going to sign up for<BR>> another year of releases and =
continue=20
to support the program.<BR>> <BR>> THANKS to Wayne and Ron for =
writing=20
and supporting a great program.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --<BR>> =
Richard=20
Thorne - N5ZC<BR>> Amarillo, TX<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>=20
_______________________________________________<BR>> WriteLog =
mailing=20
list<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:WriteLog@contesting.com">WriteLog@contesting.com</A><BR>&g=
t; <A=20
=
href=3D"http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/writelog">http://lis=
ts.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/writelog</A><BR><BR>--<BR>Barry=20
Kutner,=20
=
W2UP &nb=
sp; =20
Internet: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:w2up@mindspring.com">w2up@mindspring.com</A><BR>Newtown,=20
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PA  =
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Frankford Radio =
Club<BR> =20
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