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[WriteLog] Cabrillo

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Subject: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
From: Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@starlinx.com (Steve Baron - KB3MM)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:55:04 -0000
Even with the ARRL contests, the format is not constant.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave L Thompson" <k4jrb@juno.com>
To: <doncassel@compuserve.com>
Cc: <writelog@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 19:19
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo


> Cabrillo was originally designed for ARRL Contests (that is why the ARRL
> Section).  However CQ and other contests have adopted it as it provides a
> standard format (see www.kkn.net).  This means the contest checking
> software can be easily set up to provide an impersonal test of each log.
> 
> There is no one contest logging program that can satisfy all needs.  I
> like Writelog as its written for windows and uses windows conventions. 
> Sure its feature rich so not always easy to use especially if you are
> using CW/RTTY/SSB keying etc and complete rig control.   Every contest
> does not require cabrillo that is why sometimes cabrillo output is not
> active.  By adding the WT4I contest tools you can convert ALL logs to
> cabrillo in a good format.  Please don't attempt to homebrew cabrillo as
> the checkers will probably have to re-convert anyway.
> 
> Writelog is a works in process as is any logging program...want new
> features or a contest added...just get it in the list and stay tuned!
> 
> 73 Dave K4JRB
> 
> > Interesting comments. It seems that the new "Standard" is not really
> > standard at all. I think the difference would only be in the fields
> > required. ie. some would require a QSO # field others would not but 
> > the way
> > a field is defined would be the same for all. Thus a Cabrillo file 
> > could be
> > produced for each contest which contains only the fields required 
> > for that
> > contest. That would be independent of whether the contest sponsor 
> > specifies
> > the need for a Cabrillo file. Writelog would just create the file 
> > with the
> > available fields. A no-brainer.
> > 
> > The problem with WLs approach is that every time a contest sponsor 
> > decides
> > to require Cabrillo then Writelog needs to create a new release of 
> > the
> > software.
> > 
> > Don't get me wrong. I like Writelog a lot and use it for most of my
> > contesting. It has mostly great qualities and this is just the 1% 
> > that irks
> > me.
> > 
> > Don VE3BUC
> > 
> > |-----Original Message-----
> > |From: stevebaron@starlinx.com [mailto:stevebaron@starlinx.com]
> > |Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:20 PM
> > |To: Don Cassel
> > |Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |Definitely not so.
> > |
> > |The Cabrillo file format IS NOT the same for every contest.
> > |
> > |It is the responsibility of the contest sponsor to specify the 
> > format ...
> > |then the logging programs can produce the file.
> > |
> > |----- Original Message -----
> > |From: "Don Cassel" <doncassel@compuserve.com>
> > |To: "Graeme Bracht vk4dz" <fab1@uq.net.au>; 
> > <writelog@contesting.com>
> > |Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 21:43
> > |Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
> > |
> > |
> > |> Graeme,
> > |>
> > |> My experience has shown that WL does not support Cabrillo for 
> > every
> > |contest.
> > |> This has always bugged me as it seems that it should be a 
> > standard output
> > |> for every contest. Not so.
> > |>
> > |> Gud luck,
> > |> Don VE3BUC
> > |>
> > |> |-----Original Message-----
> > |> |From: writelog-admin@contesting.com
> > |> |[mailto:writelog-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Bracht 
> > vk4dz
> > |> |Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:39 PM
> > |> |To: writelog@contesting.com
> > |> |Subject: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
> > |> |
> > |> |
> > |> |
> > |> |Hello All
> > |> |              Sorry to ask but only had the program for 1 week 
> > so
> > |> |still learning.The cabrillo option in the "contest" drop down 
> > menu
> > |> |is not available. (greyed out)  And if you go to the "export" 
> > menu
> > |> |cabrillo is greyed out here also.So how do i do the for the 
> > volta
> > |contest.
> > |> |Thanks in advance
> > |> |Graeme vk4dz
> > |> |
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