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Re: [WriteLog] [NCCC] SS Packet DANGER, DANGER, Will Robinson!!!

To: "'Alan Eshleman'" <doctore@well.com>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] [NCCC] SS Packet DANGER, DANGER, Will Robinson!!!
From: "J. Edward (Ed) Muns" <w0yk@msn.com>
Reply-to: w0yk@msn.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:19:06 -0800
List-post: <mailto:writelog@contesting.com>
Alan, the issue is using Packet to request a QSO.  Making the request on
your radio is not an infraction of the rules.  But, the thinking is that
using Packet is a non-radio means of soliciting QSOs that is specifically
prohibited in the rules.  It seems to me that the Assisted, or Unlimited in
SS, category creates a fuzzy line on this topic, but the common
interpretation is that Packet can be used for spotting and not for
soliciting contacts.

73,
Ed - W0YK 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nccc-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:nccc-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Alan Eshleman
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:07 PM
> To: K6VVA; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc: nccc@contesting.com; writelog@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [NCCC] SS Packet DANGER, DANGER, Will Robinson!!!
> 
> Wow.  So if I'm working phone and I say (over the air) to no 
> one in particular "if you work someone from NNY, send 'em on 
> over here" that puts me in the multi category?  If that's 
> true (1) I am guilty of doing this in the past and (2) so are 
> hundreds of others similarly guilty.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Alan/K6SRZ
> 
> At 10:25 11/15/2006 -0800, K6VVA wrote:
> >SS Packet DANGER, DANGER, Will Robinson!!!
> >
> >With the SS Phone weekend rapidly approaching, I sincerely hope this 
> >helps someone else to NOT make the same mistake (out of ignorance and
> >misunderstanding) that I did in the 2006 SS CW event.
> >
> >Special TNX to wise sage Mr. Wardster, N0AX, for his advice as to a 
> >solution in this matter vs. simply requesting withdrawal of 
> my humble, 
> >non-competitive log submission.
> >
> >73 & Good Luck in the Contest, Om's...
> >
> >Rick, K6VVA
> >
> >P.S. I am strongly considering the NON-use of Packet during 
> my limited 
> >QRV in the SS Phone event, so any pre-fill data with a "U" category 
> >*may* be incorrect ;-(
> >
> >RE:
> >===
> >
> > >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:10:20 -0800
> > >To: kc1j@arrl.org
> > >From: K6VVA <dx35@hilding.com>
> > >Subject: RE: K6VVA ARRL 2006 SS CW Log Submission
> > >
> > >Hello, Tom:
> > >
> > >In an abundance of caution, and due to my ignorance and 
> > >misinterpretation of packet rules for the "U" category, based upon 
> > >several Reflector discussions, it appears I need to change 
> my K6VVA 
> > >2006 SS CW Log Submission from the category of "U" to "M".
> > >
> > >In my operational excitement of only needing the "NL" 
> section for a 
> > >Clean Sweep before having to QRT Sunday Morning, I recall making a 
> > >post (like others I'd seen) which I didn't even remotely 
> consider to 
> > >be "solicitation" at the time.
> > >
> > >Will this email suffice, or do I need to totally resubmit 
> a log with 
> > >the above correction in it?
> > >
> > >IMHO, there is a fuzzy thin line between "U" and "M", and from one 
> > >vantage point, I now believe there is really no 
> difference.  In fact, I think "U"
> > >should be changed to "MU" (Multi-Unlimited), because the use of 
> > >packet is really like having the benefit of thousands and 
> thousands of "Assistant"
> > >operators.
> > >
> > >In any case, I believe a more detailed "WARNING" and 
> description of 
> > >what constitutes "Solicitation" needs to be incorporated into a 
> > >re-write of the SS rule.
> > >
> > >Please advise if my requested change can be made at the 
> ARRL, or if I 
> > >need to resubmit.
> > >
> > >Tnx & 73...
> > >
> > >Rick, K6VVA
> >
> >
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