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Re: [WriteLog] Cut number confusion

To: "Bill Parry" <BPARRY@RGV.RR.COM>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cut number confusion
From: Jerry Flanders <jeflanders@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:59:25 -0500
List-post: <mailto:writelog@contesting.com>
It depends on the mode in use. In CW, it is normal and acceptable to 
use CW cut number conventions. In other modes, cut numbers are 
_totally_ inappropriate. It bugs me every time I print a 5NN on RTTY, 
because that takes even longer to send than 599, but I would be 
equally bugged if I heard a full 599 sent in a CW exchange - same reason.

Jerry W4UK

At 04:45 PM 2/19/2007, you wrote:
>I'm not sure what this has to do with Writelog, but I very much dislike the
>use of cut numbers, too. N for 9 has been in heavy use for years and I don't
>have a problem with that, and not with K = 1000. However, when my old brain
>expects a number and I get something like 5NN G. (59975) or some other odd
>ball abbreviation, the sending station is probably going to get an error in
>my log. Since I never review my log after the contest, that error is going
>to be sent in.
>
>I thought the purpose of the contest is to correctly transmit and receive
>information. If the cut numbers are not translated properly at the receiving
>end, the transmitting station is going to lose more than one contact every
>time! This alone should discourage the use of cut numbers.
>
>Bill, W5VX
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: writelog-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:writelog-
> >bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry
> >Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:24 PM
> >To: Dick-w0raa; Writelog Reflector
> >Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cut number confusion
> >
> >I don't understand why there's such confusion over this.  CW is
> >abbreviated all the time:
> >TU, K, 73, etc.
> >
> >There are recognized (and some not so recognized) abbreviations for
> >numbers.  You need to take the symbol in context.  If it was meant to be
> >a number, it's a number.  For example, 5NN NN = 599 99.  Yes, K = 1000,
> >and I logged K for all the Ks, KWs, etc.
> >
> >In the late 70s (boy, I'm getting old...), I did log checking for the NY
> >State QSO Party.  I couldn't believe it when guys sent in logs with 5NN
> >as the exchange.  I guess it's more common than I thought.
> >
> >Dick - WP2Z is a villa on top of a mountain in the US Virgin Islands.  I
> >guess the call was registered in NJ, but yes, it is DX.
> >
> >73,
> >Barry W2UP
> >
> >Dick-w0raa wrote:
> >> I agree with you, Dave.  What in the hell does "NN" mean?  I put it down
> >as
> >> 99.
> >>
> >> ATT is 100 (I assume)
> >> AOO is 100 (What else is it supposed to be?)
> >> KW is 1000?
> >> K is 1000?
> >> NN is 99?
> >>
> >> I had one stn that sent me 8T.  I entered it as 80.
> >> 5TT was 500, I guess.
> >>
> >> Several stations sent a plain "K".  I put it down as 1000 Watts as I did
> >> with KW.  I guess the micro second that it took to send a KW was just too
> >> much for some of them.  I think CUT numbers should be banned from
> >contests.
> >>
> >> There was also a station with a call of WP2Z.  He was sending a KW.  I
> >> looked him up on QRZ.COM and it was the Island Villa Contest Club in
> >> Morristown, NJ.  If he was a US station, why was he sending out "599 KW"
> >as
> >> a report?  It should have been "599 NJ".  Am I missing something?   I
> >hope
> >> somebody can explain why he was sending a 599 KW if he was state side?
> >>
> >> Dick
> >> W0RAA
> >> ___________
> >
> >Barry Kutner, W2UP
> >Newtown, PA
> >
> >________________________

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