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Re: [WriteLog] WL/MMTTY Problem

To: "'Dick Flanagan'" <dick@k7vc.com>, "'Gary AL9A'" <al9a@mtaonline.net>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] WL/MMTTY Problem
From: Ed Muns <w0yk@msn.com>
Reply-to: w0yk@msn.com
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:36:52 -0400
List-post: <writelog@contesting.com">mailto:writelog@contesting.com>
Two PC/radio setups networked with a third PC) have been working flawlessly
here all week.  Windows 7 32-bit, WriteLog 11.01F.  Each has three Rttyrite
windows:

1.  First Rttyrite window with MMTTY, left channel audio (main receiver) and
FSK Com port.
2.  Clone Rttyrite window with DXP38 and Com port for interfacing with PC.
3.  Clone Rttyrite window with MMTTY using right channel audio (second
receiver) and no Com port.

I can simply close the main WriteLog window and all this shuts down nicely
with no error messages.  However, when starting up WriteLog again the
configurations of each of the three Rttyrite windows need to be corrected
back to what they had been.  This is because there are only two [Rttyrite]
sections in writelog.ini in which are stored the various parameters for each
of (in this example) three Rttyrite windows.  The three sets of parameters
end up being mixed in the two ini file sections.

I've requested that this part of the writelog.ini file be expanded so that
unlimited number of [Rttyrite] ini file sections be available for clone
Rttyrite window parameter sets, properly saved for reloading of WriteLog.

Ed - P49X (W0YK)


Dick, K7VC, wrote:
> OK, two discoveries:
> 
> 1.  You don't need to assign a Comm port to the clone as it is by
> definition a receive-only device with no need for transmit control.  I
> just set mine to NONE and it appears to decode just fine.
> 
> 2.  I cannot recreate my MMTTY.INI updating error if as Gary suggests I
> explicitly close down the clone window *before* I shutdown WL.
> 
> I don't think we've solved anything, but I think we have found how to
> make it workable without too many dramatics.
> 
> Thanks for the help Ed, Gary and Jay.
> 
> One day to go.....
> 
> Dick
> 
> --
> Dick Flanagan K7VC
> dick@k7vc.com
> 
> 
> On 1/5/2012 11:29 PM, Dick Flanagan wrote:
> > That could be it.  I will try manually closing the cloned window before
> > I shut down WL.
> >
> > Dick
> >
> > --
> > Dick Flanagan K7VC
> > dick@k7vc.com
> >
> >
> > On 1/5/2012 11:27 PM, Gary AL9A wrote:
> >> Per my earlier message, when I changed COM ports in the clone window
> >> everything seemed to work ok, but I haven't actually copied signals
> >> over the air yet.  I did not experience your problem with MMTTY.ini
> >> not updating. But then I didn't start a second instance of MMTTY from
> >> a different location and I closed the second MMTTY window and clone
> >> RittyRite window before shutting down WL.  Maybe that's the difference?
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Gary AL9A
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Flanagan"<dick@k7vc.com>
> >> To: "Gary AL9A"<al9a@mtaonline.net>; "WriteLog"
> >> <writelog@contesting.com>
> >> Sent: January 05, 2012 10:06 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] WL/MMTTY Problem
> >>
> >>
> >>> In the clone window, select the TU Type drop-down and then select
> >>> MMTTY. A new MMTTY control panel should open, but it is tricky as it
> >>> will exactly overlay the current MMTTY control panel.  You will need
> >>> to select it and move it out of the way.
> >>>
> >>> You should then be able to select a different profile for each MMTTY
> >>> control panel.
> >>>
> >>> My problem was after I did that and then closed Writelog, I received
> >>> an error that MMTTY.INI could not be updated.  When I then re-opened
> >>> Writelog, MMTTY could not communicate with the outside world.  After
> >>> again closing Writelog and then directly invoking MMTTY, I find that
> >>> the FSK and Control ports have been reset to NONE.
> >>>
> >>> It acts like whatever caused the MMTTY.INI update error is causing
> >>> the MMTTY FSK and control ports to be reset.  Once that happens, you
> >>> have to use MMTTY to configure them again.
> >>>
> >>> This works for Ed so I am assuming I have a configuration error.  I
> >>> will be curious to see how successful you are.
> >>>
> >>> Dick
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Dick Flanagan K7VC
> >>> dick@k7vc.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 1/5/2012 10:44 PM, Gary AL9A wrote:
> >>>> Ed,
> >>>>
> >>>> I can get the clone RittyRite window to open, but it didn't ask me
> >>>> for the
> >>>> path to MMTTY.  Despite this it appears to be receiving and
> >>>> decoding. But
> >>>> per Dick's request how do you get another MMTTY window to function
> >>>> with the
> >>>> clone window so that you can choose a different Profile for the
> clone?
> >>>>
> >>>> 73,
> >>>> Gary AL9A
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Ed Muns"<w0yk@msn.com>
> >>>> To: "'Dick Flanagan'"<dick@k7vc.com>
> >>>> Cc: "'WriteLog'"<writelog@contesting.com>
> >>>> Sent: January 05, 2012 2:41 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] WL/MMTTY Problem
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Ah, so, but you don't need two instances of MMTTY.  You just
> >>>>> "clone" the
> >>>>> first Rttyrite window that has MMTTY as the TNC.  In the Rttyrite
> File
> >>>>> menu
> >>>>> of the first Rttyrite/MMTTY window you bring up, click 'Clone' and
> >>>>> when it
> >>>>> asks you for the path to MMTTY, give it the path to the first
> >>>>> instance of
> >>>>> MMTTY.  You can have any number of clones without resorting to
> >>>>> additional
> >>>>> instances of MMTTY.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ed - P49X (W0YK)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dick, K7YC, replied:
> >>>>>> As per your NCCC presentation, I am looking for the opportunity to
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>> two different profiles processing the same audio stream.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dick
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Dick Flanagan K7VC
> >>>>>> dick@k7vc.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/5/2012 3:20 PM, Ed Muns wrote:
> >>>>>>> I've had this happen once in a while, but not often, and not
> >>>>>>> recently.
> >>>>>> I've
> >>>>>>> never worried about it or looked into it.  But, I am curious
> >>>>>>> about what
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> going on.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why are you using two instances of MMTTY?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ed - P49X (W0YK)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dick, K7VC, wrote:
> >>>>>>>> During today's RTTY RU practice, I noticed a problem running two
> >>>>>>>> instances of MMTTY.  When exiting WL I received an error message
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> MMTTY.INI cannot be updated.  When I again invoke MMTTY, all port
> >>>>>>>> settings have been set to NONE.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Why is WL trying to update MMTTY.INI?  What kind of circumstance
> >>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>> cause this kind of error?  WRITELOG.INI has the correct path to
> the
> >>>>>>>> MMTTY directory and MMTTY operates properly until I exit WL at
> >>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>> point the MMTTY ports are set to NONE and I need to reset them.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Could the two instances of MMTTY be fighting over some resource?
> >>>>>>>> Could
> >>>>>>>> one instance be trying to update MMTTY.INI while the other
> instance
> >>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>> it open?  Has anyone else experienced difficulties running two
> >>>>>> instances
> >>>>>>>> of MMTTY from within WL?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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