Good point Joe..... It IS a contest logger, after all. I guess I was thinking
a bit more generically and forgetting the real purpose of writelog in the first
place :). Thanks for reminding me ...... He he he.
Mike AB7ZU
Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka
On Feb 28, 2013, at 7:32, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> You are correct - adding "LotW_QSL_Sent" and the date (LotW_QSLSDATE) is
> consistent with the the workflow envisioned in the Amateur Data
> Interchange Format (ADIF) and many loggers that provide award tracking
> operate that way. However, such capabilities are not really necessary
> for a *contest* logger where adding extra fields to each log entry
> carry a performance penalty (or at least processing overhead).
>
> It's certainly not my place to tell Wayne how to design his product -
> but the ability to prevent one from blindly exporting the same 5,000
> QSOs to LotW every week or month (50 non-contest QSOs/week x 2 years)
> probably justifies a "last upload" date.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2/28/2013 8:50 AM, Mike Armstrong wrote:
>> Joe, it could be something as simple as the addition of a new field in the
>> log file itself.... "LOTW qsl sent." With that flagged, it would only send
>> those whose flag isn't "Y." Stupidly simple idea, but I don't know how much
>> trouble it would be to implement it. I know a couple of other logging
>> programs do that..... But having very limited experience with writelog to
>> this point, I don't know if it is already there and I just don't know
>> it...... I leave that for you guys with more product time to tell us :) :)
>>
>> Mike AB7ZU
>>
>> Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2013, at 19:28, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> I agree this is a cumbersome process and would hope a fix could be
>>>> provided so WL can export the date ranges itself rather than have to
>>>> produce the entire adif and then hone it down further outside of WL.
>>>
>>> It could be something as simple as storing the date/time of the last
>>> exported QSO in each log and then not exporting anything prior to
>>> that unless the user confirmed an "override": "You have already
>>> signed the QSOs before YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM for LotW. Are you sure?"
>>> (for "General DXCC Tracking Log") or "You have already signed this
>>> log. Are you sure?" (for a specific contest log).
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/27/2013 9:14 PM, Gary AL9A wrote:
>>>> Frank,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I've seen that work around mentioned on the reflectors before. It
>>>> will work, provided the pilot is as conscientious as you and makes note
>>>> of the start and end dates to be uploaded each time. I agree this is a
>>>> cumbersome process and would hope a fix could be provided so WL can
>>>> export the date ranges itself rather than have to produce the entire
>>>> adif and then hone it down further outside of WL. Many opportunities
>>>> for something to go wrong or for inexperienced/lazy pilots to just
>>>> upload the whole shooting match each time!
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Gary AL9A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Fallon" <n2ff@optonline.net>
>>>> To: <writelog@contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: February 27, 2013 3:12 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Writelog for general logging?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Good point, Gary.
>>>>>
>>>>> But there is another alternative which avoids downloading another
>>>>> logging program. It's a little bit more cumbersome, but I solve the
>>>>> problem by having Writelog export my general DX log as an ADIF file to
>>>>> a folder I named "LOTW" and then I call up TQSL and ask it to sign the
>>>>> entire file. At a point in the process I then have the ability to
>>>>> specify start and end dates. Using that feature enables me to send a
>>>>> much smaller file. Yes, it takes more time but avoids using another
>>>>> logging program. Yes, It certain would be great if the date range
>>>>> features was directly available in Writelog. (hint hint nudge nudge).
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank...N2FF....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/5/2013 5:02 AM, Gary AL9A wrote:
>>>>>> There is a problem with using the both the DXpedition mode and
>>>>>> General DXCC tracking log keeper and exporting to LOTW from these
>>>>>> modules. Whenever you do a File/Export/Trusted QSL file... you are
>>>>>> exporting the ENTIRE log to LOTW, not just the latest QSOs. Unlike a
>>>>>> true general logger, WriteLog's various modules lack the ability to
>>>>>> select just some QSOs in the log by specifying a range of dates to be
>>>>>> included in the upload. This is not a problem for uploading a
>>>>>> contest log as you do want to upload the entire record. But...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your log is small this is not a big problem. However, if your log
>>>>>> contains thousands of QSOs you are needlessly uploading thousands of
>>>>>> duplicate transactions to LOTW with each update. This is an enormous
>>>>>> waste of LOTW computer resources and needlessly causes delays for the
>>>>>> entire LOTW community. A far better approach would be to find a good
>>>>>> general purpose logger, either a freebee from the internet, or a low
>>>>>> cost product that offers the features necessary to control which of
>>>>>> your log records are going to be uploaded to LOTW. The DXLabs suite
>>>>>> at http://www.dxlabsuite.com/ comes to mind as it is a powerful
>>>>>> package that is free for the asking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have need of a general logger and want to use one of the
>>>>>> WriteLog modules fine. Just be a considerate amateur and don't
>>>>>> utilize the LOTW upload directly from these modules. Instead find
>>>>>> another way to create a tq8 file that contains only the few new QSOs
>>>>>> that you need to upload.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Gary AL9A
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -
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