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Re: [WriteLog] WriteLog Digest, Vol 234, Issue 7

To: Jeff Stai <wk6i.jeff@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] WriteLog Digest, Vol 234, Issue 7
From: Alan Maenchen <ad6e@arrl.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:57:18 -1000
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I've used AUTO mode several times along with multi-streams ... outside of
contests. I only do that when I get a pileup that won't quit. A strong EU
or JA opening will do that although not so much recently since KH6 isn't so
rare. But I never really sat and watched it for more than a few
minutes, and not with SO2R. Usually I go manually until I get bored
(doesn't take long), then click the AUTO box and go mow the lawn or watch

I can see where contest sponsors might want to see a non-AUTO version since
there's no way for them to tell if you're doing it manually or not just by
looking at your log. But then they don't necessarily know you're using DR
either ... just Writelog.

BTW, I've been thinking that even in full AUTO mode, I still have the
opportunity to manually uncheck calls in the queue that are low point value
or not going very well in the QSO process. That pretty much makes up the
rate disadvantage of full AUTO. Call it semi-auto. DR still automatically
puts callers in the queue but I can deselect them if there are bigger fish
to fry. I can also add CQing stations to the queue if I choose.

73, Alan  AD6E / KH6TU

On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 9:35 AM Jeff Stai <wk6i.jeff@gmail.com> wrote:

> DR does have a place where you can say "Log anyway" or something like
> that. I didn't get to play in the IDC so my memory is fuzzy... I think it's
> in a right click someplace.
> I did my playing with the auto mode in daily operation just to see how it
> worked - which is pretty well but it had its quirks and at the end of the
> proverbial day you get a higher score if you pick the station to work.
> Someday soon I hope to have time to dive into the DR code and make some of
> these little mods, and maybe remove the auto mode so it is cleaner for
> contesting.
> Thanks and 73 - jeff wk6i
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 12:04 PM Alan Maenchen <ad6e@arrl.net> wrote:
>> Jeff, WK6I wrote:
>> >
>> > I am noticing postings where people refer to FT software that is not
>> > WSJT-X.
>> >
>> > If you did use something other than WSJT-X, if you could please share
>> with
>> > me what software you did use and why you chose that.
>> >
>> > I'll compile them as part of my QST writeup. Thanks - jeff wk6i
>> >
>> >
>> Jeff,
>> I used DR in full SO2R mode for FT4. It worked fine although I'd like to
>> see some improvements. Namely:
>> 1)  Reduce timeout from five tries (cycles) to two for contests  (user
>> selectable)
>> 2)  For things like in this contest, identify when someone sends a signal
>> report instead of grid, I don't know of a good solution other than just
>> ignoring it. Send GRID?  Or send S/N and hope to get the grid next cycle?
>> Or dump the caller from the queue?
>> The user interface for DR is way superior to WSJT although WSJT may be
>> more
>> capable of sending random text such as GRID?   Not sure since I didn't try
>> that in DR. I'm not very familiar with WSJT, but I hear complaints about
>> situations where DR simply works and WSJT gets stuck in the sequences. For
>> example, if a QSO fails to complete and I move on to make other QSOs, then
>> the missing station comes through with their final - DR will complete the
>> QSO and log it while WSJT won't.  I'm not 100% sure of that, but I think
>> that was the case.
>> I also tried out the FULL AUTO feature in DR just to see how it plays. It
>> did quite well with SO2R although it got stuck a couple of times when
>> getting a signal report instead of grid. I could do a little better with
>> manually controlling call priority based on S/N and point value, and
>> stopping unworkable QSOs before wasting more cycles. Granted, that makes
>> my
>> log illegal, but I wasn't serious in the contest and I wanted to see how
>> it
>> played.
>> 73, Alan  AD6E / KH6TU
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