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Re: Topband: DXCC Desk?

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Subject: Re: Topband: DXCC Desk?
From: Bob Kupps <n6bk@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: Bob Kupps <n6bk@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:41:47 -0800 (PST)
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Yeah DXCC stopped being interesting for me back when the the UN HQ building in 
NYC was declared to be a "country"; maybe it isn't even on the list anymore I 
haven't checked for decades...



On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:02 AM, Herb Schoenbohm <herbs@vitelcom.net> 
wrote:
 
Gents... Amateur radio is supposed to be devoid of politics as much as 
possible. but the more you dig the worse it gets.  I once attended an 
IARU Region II meeting in Jamaica and was amazed by all the wheeling and 
dealing going on with DXCC accreditation at the core. That was nearly 50 
years ago and it seems not much has changed.  I had even heard that the 
ops at 706T where banned from working any 4X4's but the sharp ops with a 
wink and a nod just logged VX4*** rather than mentioning anything on the 
air. Would the ARRL "DXCC Desk" discredit a single 4X4 in need of this 
one?  I sort of doubt it. At times there are bona fide reasons to make 
exception.  Also the creation of private DX preserves by the ARRL for 
certain Radio Societies is legend. In fact KP5 (Desecheo) should never 
have been granted DXCC status when Mona Island which permits visitors 
was refused.  Additionally Water Island, which KP2A fought for for 
years, was clearly not part of the USVI and until recently administered 
solely by the U.S. Department of interior.  But so the story goes that 
hams in Puerto Rico had decided to join the IARU as a distinct and 
unique entity apart from the U.S. and the creation of a private DXCC 
location was the price the ARRL paid to halt those plans.  The DXCC 
rules have been anything but consistant and have been bent and twisted 
like a heavily gerrymander congressional district to purposely include 
or exclude  voters of certain just to satisfy some.


Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ






On 11/18/2013 3:47 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> Len,
>
>> Why, you might ask after all this suffering, is that this nation
>> still is not recognazid as a separate entity to this very small
>> world  of the global assembly that Ham radio really is?
>
> Ask the Serbs and Russians why they blocked Kosovar membership in the
> UN and prevented ITU from assigning a callsign block, dialing prefix
> and internet TLD?  If the Serbs and Russians recognize the Palestine
> they could certainly allow Kosovo similar international privileges.
>
> Kosovo is recognized by the US as an "independent state" (see:
> http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm) and like the EU the US
> maintains diplomatic relations with Kosovo.  Unfortunately, the
> DXCC Rules (see: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/DXCC/DXCC%20Rules.pdf)
> do not include the US DOS "Independent States in the World" listing as
> a qualifying option for a "Political (Rule 1) Entity".
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>

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