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Re: Topband: Slightly OT - amplifier noise

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Subject: Re: Topband: Slightly OT - amplifier noise
From: Michael Tope <W4EF@dellroy.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:15:13 -0700
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Dave is that -112 dBm you calculated the output referred noise? If so, what is the gain behind it?

Thanks,

73, Mike W4EF.......

On 3/14/2020 2:13 PM, Dave Cuthbert wrote:
Steve, I ran a SPICE model of the MFJ-1095 front end. What gain there is
resides there. The next three stages have unity gain. The input noise is:

1.8 MHz, 50 nV/Hz^0.5

7.0 MHz, 26 nV/Hz^0.5

14 MHz, 19 nV/Hz^0.5

28 MHz, 13 nV/Hz^0.5

Depending on the input stage gain (I'm modeling 1 to 2 depending on the
transformer) the three following stages can up the noise by 4-5 dB.

At 7 MHz the 26 nV/Hz^0.5 is 580 nV in a 500 Hz bandwidth, or -112 dBm.
This is 2.5 S-units. *What receiver are you using, what band and what is
the bandwidth? *

      Dave KH6AQ

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 6:40 AM <n2icarrl@gmail.com> wrote:

This discussion of Hi Z amplifiers has been quite interesting. Excellent
information from W1FV and K7TJR.

I have an RX amp question, related but slightly off-topic.

I have an MFJ-1025/1026 noise canceler. I like to use it on the higher HF
bands
to cancel power line QRN. The noise is typically S3-S4, but I want it down
to S0
to hear the bottom layer of stations. My sense antenna works fine, and the
QRN
is canceled. However, the MFJ-1025 amplifier noise is quite significant,
often
negating the QRN cancellation. The MFJ amplifiers are J310's. Any
recommendations for something quieter ?

73,
Steve, N2IC

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