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> On Feb 9, 2022, at 7:27 PM, UA3AGW Dmitry Zaslavsky via Topband
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>
>
> Dear Nikolay, UY0ZG !
>
> Can you please stop shitting on your Ukranian colleagues at least in the
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> Moreover — everybody @ Russian QRZ.ru Forums are so much tired of your
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> And now I see you've found a new loophole for your restless temper. Be aware
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> keep throwing mud at everything like you, man!
> No matter whether you’re an experienced Topbander or just a starter — you
> should respect another subscribers here. Just look what other people are
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> I wish you a «miraculous healing» from this fancy and bizarre style of
> communication, which you have repeatedly demonstrated to us on the pages of
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> Best 73’s from friendly Russia !
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> Dima, UA3AGW
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>> 1. 8 Circle question (Jim Miller)
>> 2. Re: 8 Circle question (w5zn@w5zn.org)
>> 3. Re: 8 Circle question (Mike Fatchett)
>> 4. Re: 8 Circle question (Jim Miller)
>> 5. Re: 8 Circle question (Joe Subich, W4TV)
>> 6. " LOW POWER " (Roger Kennedy)
>> 7. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg)
>> 8. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg)
>> 9. " LOW POWER " (Roger Kennedy)
>> 10. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:38:09 -0500
>> From: Jim Miller < jim@jtmiller.com >
>> To: topband@contesting.com
>> Subject: Topband: 8 Circle question
>> Message-ID:
>> < CACYeN9wdGsryOTuRAbJfKadL0FHrMAgYQN-6PwnagpjpCGqkvg@mail.gmail.com >
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>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on my
>> neighbor's property.
>>
>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with 75
>> ohm terminations of course.
>>
>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Jim ab3cv
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 14:43:41 -0700
>> From: w5zn@w5zn.org
>> To: Jim Miller < jim@jtmiller.com >
>> Cc: topband@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
>> Message-ID: < ca7ae5067722b640e8c8ddfa07254155@w5zn.org >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the Broad
>> Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array?
>>
>> The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF array
>> only uses 4 verticals for each direction.
>>
>> 73 Joel W5ZN
>>
>>
>>> On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote:
>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on
>>> my
>>> neighbor's property.
>>>
>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with
>>> 75
>>> ohm terminations of course.
>>>
>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Jim ab3cv
>>> _________________
>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>> Reflector
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 14:45:17 -0700
>> From: Mike Fatchett < w0mu@w0mu.com >
>> To: topband@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
>> Message-ID: < d0642aed-1c87-662c-70bc-511011ab75fb@w0mu.com >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>> You might consider the 9 circle which uses 3 verticals for each
>> direction.? It might be interesting to model that with missing elements
>> in those directions but the other directions should work just fine.
>>
>> The 8 circle uses 2 pair of phased elements.? It is hard to speculate
>> not know which elements would be missing.? It would seem to reason the
>> the intact pairs would work fine.
>>
>> Most 8 circles do not have a center element.? That would be a 9.
>>
>> W0MU
>>
>>> On 2/7/2022 2:38 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on my
>>> neighbor's property.
>>>
>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with 75
>>> ohm terminations of course.
>>>
>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Jim ab3cv
>>> _________________
>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:45:39 -0500
>> From: Jim Miller < jim@jtmiller.com >
>> To: w5zn@w5zn.org
>> Cc: topband@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
>> Message-ID:
>> < CACYeN9zj-dJaqEgYFKFMhty96SC7Uv=C9_bFieMiF-Mu2npMpg@mail.gmail.com >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3 element
>> endfire in each direction.
>>
>> I'm obviously limited in space here...
>>
>> Thanks and sorry for the confusion
>>
>> jim ab3cv
>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 4:43 PM < w5zn@w5zn.org > wrote:
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the Broad
>>> Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array?
>>>
>>> The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF array
>>> only uses 4 verticals for each direction.
>>>
>>> 73 Joel W5ZN
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote:
>>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on
>>>> my
>>>> neighbor's property.
>>>>
>>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with
>>>> 75
>>>> ohm terminations of course.
>>>>
>>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Jim ab3cv
>>>> _________________
>>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>>> Reflector
>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:54:15 -0500
>> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" < lists@subich.com >
>> To: Jim Miller < jim@jtmiller.com >, "[Topband]"
>> < topband@contesting.com >
>> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question
>> Message-ID: < 1a3a7521-cba6-bf73-27db-a2965415f7ec@subich.com >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>>
>> On 2022-02-07 4:45 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>> > I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3 element
>> > endfire in each direction.
>>
>> The 9 circle (3 element endfire) uses approximately 1:2:1 element
>> "drive". Removing one of the end elements will not yield a "clean"
>> pattern but you would need to model both 0:2:1 and 1:2:0 arrays to
>> see if the remnant pattern would be acceptable.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>>> On 2022-02-07 4:45 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>>> I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3 element
>>> endfire in each direction.
>>>
>>> I'm obviously limited in space here...
>>>
>>> Thanks and sorry for the confusion
>>>
>>> jim ab3cv
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 4:43 PM < w5zn@w5zn.org > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the Broad
>>>> Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array?
>>>>
>>>> The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF array
>>>> only uses 4 verticals for each direction.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Joel W5ZN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote:
>>>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the
>>>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on
>>>>> my
>>>>> neighbor's property.
>>>>>
>>>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each
>>>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if
>>>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with
>>>>> 75
>>>>> ohm terminations of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the
>>>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim ab3cv
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 22:45:32 -0000
>> From: "Roger Kennedy" < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>> To: < topband@contesting.com >
>> Subject: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>> Message-ID: <2D0F563663244CC892DBC15664030A51@Packard>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>> Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make . . .
>>
>> Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"?
>>
>> Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power) . . . but
>> you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours compared to
>> last year !
>>
>> I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe . . .
>> but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run high power
>> in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you ! (as
>> demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked)
>>
>> Roger G3YRO
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 07:48:54 +0200
>> From: uy0zg < uy0zg@mksat.net >
>> To: Roger Kennedy < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>> Cc: topband@contesting.com, Topband
>> < topband-bounces+uy0zg=mksat.net@contesting.com >
>> Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>> Message-ID: < 8e307bc7e1126e8d8df2a6f5854629e6@mksat.net >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Roger
>>
>> I probably don't know how to tell sad jokes.. :-))))
>>
>> I didn't work LoW in any of the contests.
>>
>>
>> I think that for participants from Eastern European countries, only two
>> categories should be left (SINGLE HIGH and MULTI HIGH).
>>
>> UW0K is not my callsign ..............
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Nick, UY0ZG
>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>
>> Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 00:45:
>>> Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make . . .
>>>
>>> Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"?
>>>
>>> Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power) . .
>>> . but
>>> you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours compared
>>> to
>>> last year !
>>>
>>> I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe . .
>>> .
>>> but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run high
>>> power
>>> in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you ! (as
>>> demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked)
>>>
>>> Roger G3YRO
>>>
>>> _________________
>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>> Reflector
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 08:07:35 +0200
>> From: uy0zg < uy0zg@mksat.net >
>> To: Roger Kennedy < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>> Cc: topband@contesting.com, Topband
>> < topband-bounces+uy0zg=mksat.net@contesting.com >
>> Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>> Message-ID: < e3746eae657b0d9867038d481df16d75@mksat.net >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>> another example of a "super" LOW performed by a fighter from the valiant
>> US1Q brigade:
>>
>> Raw 2021 CQ WW CW Contest
>>
>>
>> CW / UT2IV / Assisted Low 160 Meters
>> 1 UT2IV..............74,820
>>
>> And here's what the real HIGH looks like..... :
>>
>> CW / UY0ZG / Assisted High 160 Meters
>>
>> 2 UY0ZG..............70,799
>>
>> 3 UX0KR..............69,012
>>
>> ---
>> Nick, UY0ZG
>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>
>> uy0zg ????? 2022-02-08 07:48:
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> I probably don't know how to tell sad jokes.. :-))))
>>>
>>> I didn't work LoW in any of the contests.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think that for participants from Eastern European countries, only
>>> two categories should be left (SINGLE HIGH and MULTI HIGH).
>>>
>>> UW0K is not my callsign ..............
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Nick, UY0ZG
>>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>>
>>> Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 00:45:
>>>> Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make . . .
>>>>
>>>> Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"?
>>>>
>>>> Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power) . .
>>>> . but
>>>> you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours compared
>>>> to
>>>> last year !
>>>>
>>>> I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe .
>>>> . .
>>>> but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run high
>>>> power
>>>> in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you ! (as
>>>> demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked)
>>>>
>>>> Roger G3YRO
>>>>
>>>> _________________
>>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>>> Reflector
>>> _________________
>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>> Reflector
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 08:52:12 -0000
>> From: "Roger Kennedy" < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>> To: < topband@contesting.com >
>> Subject: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>> Message-ID: <36286A84A8374435A1F80C31B6949646@Packard>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>> Ah OK . . . apologies Nick, I didn't realise you were being sarcastic !
>>
>> Plus I presumed that the other station's Callsign was a special Contest
>> Callsign that YOU were using.
>>
>> 73 Roger G3YRO
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 11:05:54 +0200
>> From: uy0zg < uy0zg@mksat.net >
>> To: Roger Kennedy < roger@wessexproductions.co.uk >
>> Cc: topband@contesting.com, Topband
>> < topband-bounces+uy0zg=mksat.net@contesting.com >
>> Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER "
>> Message-ID: < 9a41d6d343739cd3455d44da05eaa767@mksat.net >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Thank you for understanding me, Roger
>>
>> We will not surrender to them alive :-)))))))))))))))))))
>>
>> ---
>> Nick, UY0ZG
>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>
>> Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 10:52:
>>> Ah OK . . . apologies Nick, I didn't realise you were being sarcastic !
>>>
>>> Plus I presumed that the other station's Callsign was a special Contest
>>> Callsign that YOU were using.
>>>
>>> 73 Roger G3YRO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _________________
>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
>>> Reflector
>>
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