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[Towertalk] I need help

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Subject: [Towertalk] I need help
From: htodd@twofifty.com (Hisashi T Fujinaka)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 09:32:57 -0800 (PST)
Isn't the NEC specific to the US?

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Thomas Miller wrote:

> It is against the NEC to run anything other than elevator cables in the
> elevator shaft.  This is to prevent fires and other "life saftey" issues.
> There must some sort of plumbing chase to get all the
> water/sewerage/electrical/telephone to the apts.  There usally is space to
> run in this  chase but not usally the easiest to find.  Large buildings have
> electrtical closets with nipples thru the floor.  If you do make you own
> holes make sure they are filled with fire retardent material to prevent
> spreading fires.  Some codes will require that wires that are not fire rated
> be run in conduit.  Do not risk lives for your hobby.  Follow the codes
> Tom
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "VR2BrettGraham" <vr2bg@harts.org.hk>
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 8:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Towertalk] I need help
>
>
> > After removing the cables from the lift shaft, I would suggest PY4RO check
> into
> > the lift company's claim - if the building management allowed him to run
> them
> > there to begin with, there may be an element of "just say no" which may be
> > rearing its ugly head here.
> >
> > Quite a few stations in blocks of flats here & cables down the lift shaft
> > was not
> > a problem at VS6DX's QTH, despite well-intentioned British colonial
> building
> > laws & regulations, plus the usual uncooperative lift contractors,
> building
> > management & the like.
> >
> > Cables down the outside of the building can be problematic, but a few QTHs
> ago
> > I had 12 floors worth of feeders carefully lowered down the _back_ of the
> > building &
> > run between the wall of the building & external pipes, therefore keeping
> them
> > pretty much in place.  Done right, nothing for anyone to complain about &
> this
> > again was a rented flat with a typical HK building management company.
> >
> > It should be noted that in all instances, steps were taken - if
> necessary -
> > to make
> > sure there was no TVI or anything else to give anyone an excuse to say no.
> >
> > If there is no other way than the staircase, then I would suggest doing as
> > XX9KA did - everything in a conduit in one corner, straight down.
> Admittedly a
> > bit of work, but some PVC pipe & a little concrete is probably cheaper
> than
> > moving
> > flat.
> >
> > 73, VR2BrettGraham
> >
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