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RE: [TowerTalk] Using Belden 9913 on a crankup?

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Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Using Belden 9913 on a crankup?
From: Dino Darling <k6rix@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:48:52 -0700
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Dino - K6RIX


At 01:33 PM 04/27/2004 -0400, you wrote:
I would not use 9913 on a crankup tower. It's way too stiff and will bow
out. Over time, the constant bending will cause the center conductor to
migrate, affecting the cable impedance. I initially used the much more
flexible Times Microwave LMR-400UF, but even that was too stiff. I had a
near-disaster when the LMR bowed out, swung around the tower and got caught
on the motor housing (I have a remote-controlled tower and can't see it from
the control position.) Ever since, I've used RG-213 with no problems. That
should be fine on a 50-foot tower. However, some comparisons between RG-213
and Buryflex revealed that the latter is actually more flexible. It also has
much lower loss. You can get Buryflex from Radioware
(http://www.radio-ware.com/).

73, Dick WC1M

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tower (K8RI) [mailto:tower@rogerhalstead.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:11 PM
> To: coulter@bellsouth.net; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Using Belden 9913 on a crankup?
>
>
> I used 9913 for years and then gave it all away after one
> lightening strike blew off the water proofing.  I figured it
> just wasn't worth the risk.
>
> OTOH 9913 is not a good cable to use where flexing is
> encountered.  The center conductor can migrate off center and
> it needs to make wide radius bends if long life is expected.
>
> I much prefer LMR 400 to 9913. It's slightly cheaper, or has
> been. It's one or two tenths of a db less loss and fits the
> same connectors.  Both fit PL259s. LMR 400 is more rugged and
> can make relatively short radius bends. Much shorter bends
> with reliability than 9913. I believe (without taking the
> time to look it up) that LMR-400 extraflex has about the same
> loss as regular 9913, but is more expensive.
>
> I used 9913 for years without a problem, or at least I never
> noticed any.  I liked it, but finding water running out of my
> rig after the lightening blew off all the water proofing was
> enough to cause a rapid switch to something better.  I'd
> probably still be using it had that not happened.
>
> You'll also most likely find hams who have used the stuff in
> flexing situations with no problems (there are usually
> exceptions to most any set of
> circumstances)
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Roger Halstead (K8RI, EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
> N833R, World's Oldest Debonair (S# CD-2)
> www.rogerhalstead.com
>
>
> > Could somebody tell me if Belden 9913(not 9913 flex)is usable on a
> > crankup tower. What I am interested in, is if it is bendable enough
> > when the tower
> is
> > cranked down or will it bow out too much? Should I go to a more
> > flexable
> cable
> > for the run up the tower, or is it workable? This is for a 51 ft.
> > crankup. Thanks for your help.
> >
> >                             Todd
> >                             N4JRZ
> >
> >
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