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Re: [TowerTalk] rotor removal question

To: "'Bill'" <w7vp@comcast.net>, <w2ttt@att.net>,"'Dan Hearn'" <dhearn@wwnw.net>, <EL34GUY@aol.com>,<towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] rotor removal question
From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:20:38 -0600
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
I don't know if this is possible in your situation but you might secure the
mast with clamps or retighten the bearing and loosen the rotor plate.

I always will put a couple of muffler clamps just above the Thrust bearing
just in case.  I feel more comfortable jacking the mast a foot or so and
then moved the clamps to just above the bearing.  

I have used come alongs in the past to raise and lower masts.  I also will
run some strapping close to the bottom of the mast to help hold the mast
straight as I usually have a heavy antenna on top.  I also always put in a
2nd bearing plate between the actual bearing and the rotor.  I do not use
two bearings.

Mike W0MU

-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 8:42 AM
To: w2ttt@att.net; 'Dan Hearn'; EL34GUY@aol.com; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] rotor removal question

For only 200# Try this.

Bolt a muffler clamp a few inches from the rotator.  Then hook one end of a
loading strap (the kind with the ratchets) to a tower rung a couple feet
above the clamp and wrap the strap around the mast below the clamp.  Hook
the other end of the strap to an opposite rung, again a couple feet above
the clamp.  Now use the ratchet to lift the mast.

I have used these straps effectively for a lot of things on the tower over
the years.

Bill
W7VP
----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT" <w2ttt@att.net>
To: "'Dan Hearn'" <dhearn@wwnw.net>; <EL34GUY@aol.com>;
<towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] rotor removal question


> Dan et al,
> Your idea is great, especially for an SSV tower.
> They are BIG sections, so the jack should fit.
>
> One idea would be to take a bulky U-bolt and saddle and attach it to 
> the mast and see if you could push up on the U-bolt and saddle with the
jack.
> If you don't have aluminum U channel to support the jack, then try 
> doubling
> 2 x 8s.
>
> 73,
> Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
> 201.314.6964
> w2ttt@att.net
> w2ttt@arrl.net
> w2ttt@att.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dan Hearn
> Sent: Saturday, 15 April, 2006 01:05
> To: EL34GUY@aol.com; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] rotor removal question
>
> That is basically how I lift my 2 7/8 x 1/4 x 20 ft mast. I use an 
> auto scissor jack. The top of the jack is the type that has a slot in 
> it. A vertical plate is bolted to the mast with 2 muffler clamps and 
> the edge fits into the slot in the top of the jack. Supporting the 
> base of the jack is a bit of a problem. I have a piece of 6 inch 
> aluminum channel about a foot long. One edge of the channel rests on 
> the top of the bearing. Two pieces of all thread rod which fit snugly 
> inside the vertical tubing corner posts of the crankup, are bolted to 
> the channel. Nuts on the all thread rod clamp it to the channel and 
> can be adjusted to set on the top of the tower leg.
> When
> the channel is leveled the mast can be raised easily.
>  I have 2 bearing plates so the mast is stable when jacked up. If I 
> understand your situation, You have only one bearing plate. You might 
> be able to fab something up using a moderately loose U bolt around the 
> mast, above the rotor, mounted to a vertical plate. This would be U 
> bolted to two of the tower legs using spacer blocks of suitable 
> thickness. I am not sure what the top of SSV looks like but hope some 
> of this will be applicable to your problem. 73, Dan, N5AR 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of EL34GUY@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 9:19 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] rotor removal question
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I had a problem changing out my rotor today. Its a rd1800 rotor on a 
> rohn ssv tower. The 2inch mast has slid down farther on top of the  
> rotor mount and Im unable to remove the rotor now(cant slide it out to  
> replace). Im looking for advice on how to lift up the mast maybe an 
> inch,  considering the rd1800 is still underneath the mast. The mast 
> and antenna  weigh about 200lbs and Im unable to lift it w/o some 
> assistance.  The only  support I have for the mast is the thrust 
> bearing(should have put another plate  or support inbetween) on top of 
> the tower. Im considering trying to attach  some clamp or bar metal to 
> the mast and use a car jack or something to push the  mast back up to 
> get the rotor out. Tower is 80ft and Id like to do it right the  first 
> time. Any ideas on how to jack the mast back  up?  Thankyou.
>
> Mark
> W0NCL
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