Mike Said: > To the guy who was talking about issues with harnesses and passing
out. I> would rather be passed out in my harness then dead on the ground after>
falling out of a belt. I have used both a belt and harness and the harness> is
far superior IMHO. If you don't like a harness so be it. You don't see> rock
climbers in simple belts anymore. There is a reason.Hi Mike, and group:That was
me, and I am sorry if I gave the impression that I did not endorse the proven,
accepted, standard of full body harness use for a minimum safety standard for
climbing. I do, fully. I became concerned after educating myself by reading
the professional papers of the not so well known danger of death and injury to
climbers whose safety gear worked fine, in the fall arrest, but in some cases
they died due to medical problems related to being suspended in perfectly
working harnesses. This includes numerous alpine climbers, saved by their
ropes and harnesses, and in a lot of those cases
were quite fine when they came to a stop, suspended above ground. They even
talked to their would-be partner/rescuers about how to get to terra firma, and
then died either before, during or after the final descent/rescue due to
medical problems triggered by being suspended by their harnesses. In the URL
reference, and it's links, below, there is a lot on the topic. Particulary
Paul Seddons research is quite compelling reading, to inspire anyone who
climbs, to think though the last step, of unloading your weight from the
harness, after an aerial save, after your harness has saved you, if you become
suspended in air. Many case histories of climbers, of towers, and mountains,
are reviewed in his review of 50 papers on the topic; Seddon's paper often
noted that the passing out event was followed by death.
I studied the topic very hard, when I became involved in the Jamesburg Dish,
http://www.jamesburgdish.org
a somewhat different animal in terms of falls. At Jamesburg, there were a lot
of plausible fall scenarios where a fall puts you in your harness 60 ft above
ground, and 20 ft horizontally from a support surface or structure.
http://www.fallsafety.com/news.cfm?ID=112 73, Best, Be Safe, Pat AA6EG
apolloeme@live.com
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