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Re: [TowerTalk] SWR Problem Balun or lightning protection? Problemsolved

To: Tony <dxdx@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SWR Problem Balun or lightning protection? Problemsolved?
From: Daryll Webb <kg9nd2001@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: Daryll Webb <kg9nd2001@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 04:12:05 -0800 (PST)
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Tony
I have had a iteration via rf with some of my equip. in the past and one sure 
way I found was to change frequ. on my transmitter, may need to change little 
or allot.
That might explain why the short feed line change made a difference.

One time in particular I was working on a power supply checking vdc and as I 
keyed the transmitter the voltage spiked to 40 volts. But as I changed frequ. 
the spike was no longer there.
Turned out the ps was ok it was rf giving me a untrue reading.
Jest a thought     Happy holidays  Buster kg9nd



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 From: Tony <dxdx@optonline.net>
To: towertalk@contesting.com 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SWR Problem Balun or lightning protection? 
Problemsolved?
 
On 12/22/2011 4:11 PM, Bill Fikis wrote:
>  Tony,  Any  Low  Pass filters  in  the line ??  ........Bill  /  w2ay

Hi Bill, no filters in line.

Tony
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> Subject: [TowerTalk] SWR Problem Balun or lightning protection? 
> Problemsolved?
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>> All,
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>> This has become a real mystery folks. I checked the SWR on my 3 element
>> Steppir today and found that it behaved the SAME as my 5 element 20M
>> mono band Yagi, i.e., the SWR increases after keying down for a few
>> minutes and returns to normal after waiting a few seconds. This happened
>> with all bands on the SteppIR. The antennas are mounted on the same
>> tower about 12ft apart so I always retract the Steppir elements when
>> using the 20M mono bander to avoid interaction.
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>> Today, I temporarily "solved" the problem by adding a shorter piece of
>> coax between my rig and amp essentially shortening the total length of
>> coax feeding each antenna by a few feet. I can now key down without any
>> problems and the SWR curves on both antennas have returned to normal.
>>
>> The bad news is that the problem comes back when take the new jumper out
>> of line and connect the rig directly to the separate coax cables that go
>> up the tower to feed each antenna.
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>> My guess is that it's unlikely for both antennas to behave the same way
>> because of balun issues or some other problem with the antennas. As for
>> the coax, it's high-end Bury Flex that's a few years old; I carefully
>> soldered and waterproofed the connectors myself. I'm also using the same
>> batch of coax on other antennas and they work fine.
>>
>> The only changes I've made recently was adding 2" copper straps to
>> connect the tower to the ground rods and Polyphaser lightning protection
>> to the rotator and SteppIR control cables.
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>> Just to be clear, the SWR issues happen with or without the coax being
>> grounded via the Polyphaser lightning protection; that's either a direct
>> connection between my rig and coax that runs up the tower or with the
>> grounded lightning protection in line.
>>
>> I'm glad all is working fine with the new shorter jumper that changed
>> the overall length of the two coax cables feeding each antenna, but it
>> would seem something is still not right. It's probably a long shot, but
>> I'm going to remove the ground straps from the tower and see if that
>> makes a difference.
>>
>> My sincere thanks to everyone who took the time to reply.
>>
>> Tony, K2MO
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