"The round trip matched and mismatch loss here is much
too high and in this case -- we can truly say that the tuner is "just making
the transmitter happy," or nearly so. We have a whopping 12 dB of
systematic loss. Power dissipated at the load is only 6 watts."
Clarification on my statement above: Yes, in instances of high system loss,
the tuner is providing a condition where the "transmitter is happy," [God, I
hate that term] but the tuner is also providing a secondary benefit in that
maximum power is transferred into the line despite high system loss. I
thought it was obvious, maybe it wasn't.
Paul, W9AC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] RG-149: 50 ohm/70 ohm - does it matter?
>I think a tuner only fools people to think things are working right
>(unless you use a Matchbox type tuner and twinlead).
Depends on the entire transmission system, not whether a Matchbox or
twinlead is used. Let's look at two different examples:
Example #1:
In this antenna system, let's use 100 ft of RG-58 at 28 MHz and an RF
generator output power of 100W. For the radiator, let's pick an 80m
dipole whose overall length is 135 ft. and 50 ft in height above average
ground . Under this condition, NEC4 says the feedpoint Z is 1525+j1143.
If you place an SWR meter at the input to the antenna it will read 47:1
(assuming the reading is not adversely affected by direct radiation, nor
common mode current). However, if the meter is moved to the transmitter
end, it will read 3:1.
- SWR *does* change along a line when line loss is present, but not on a
lossless line.
Again, the Z at the antenna is 1525+j1143 but the Z at the transmitter end
is 24+j34. If we use tuner here to transform 24+j34 to 50+j0, we will get
our objective SWR reading of 1:1 at the transmitter but there's so much
matched line loss + mismatch loss, that any mirrored reflection at the
tuner is also attenuated. The round trip matched and mismatch loss here
is much too high and in this case -- we can truly say that the tuner is
"just making the transmitter happy," or nearly so. We have a whopping 12
dB of systematic loss. Power dissipated at the load is only 6 watts.
Example #2:
In this antenna system, let's use 100 ft of 600-ohm balanced open feeders.
We're still transmitting 100W at 28 MHz into the same 80m dipole and as
such, the antenna input Z is still 1525+j1143. The SWR at the antenna end
of the line is 4:1. the SWR at the transmitter end is now much closer and
is 3.9:1.
- Once again, SWR does change along a line when line loss is present, but
*not* on a lossless line.
The Z at the transmitter end is 725-j969. That represents a 4:1 600-ohm
line SWR of 4:1. The 50-ohm SWR is a gigantic 47:1 at the antenna and
40:1 at the transmitter. Since we're using a line with a characteristic Z
of 600 ohms, we don't care about the 50-ohm SWR on the line -- only the
600-ohm SWR of 4:1. The systematic loss is now only 0.2dB and 95 watts is
dissipated at the load.
We're not done yet. The SWR at the transmitter end of the 600-ohm line is
3.9:1 but has a whopping Z of 725-j969. We need to transform that into
50+j0 with a tuner, a fixed L/C network, or a change in line length.
Changing the line length will have: (1) a dramatic effect on input Z; (2)
minimal effect on 600-ohm SWR; but (3) a huge 50-ohm SWR effect on a
nearly lossless line like the type used in this example.
- When we have a low loss line and moderate SWR, system losses are low and
we can take advantage of the tuner's reflection properties. In this case,
the tuner is NOT ONLY just making the transmitter happy. It's doing more
by redirecting the reflected wave into radiated energy.
At this point, some folks are scratching their heads about "50-ohm SWR"
and "600-ohm SWR." Isn't SWR the same? Yes, and no. Study this
difference. It's important when trying to understand why a change in line
length affects one characteristic SWR but not the other.
Paul, W9AC
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